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Old 12-15-2005, 01:21 PM   #161
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Cowbell linkie is in one of my posts
For those who have never seen it..

I really must say there are other ways to make a point that bashing others.
But, trolling for drama,is no way to be taken seriously ..

Sad. there goes ten minutes of my life I will never get back..

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Old 12-15-2005, 01:29 PM   #162
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i think ill take some popcorn now .. anyone else want some ?
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:41 PM   #163
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Hi,
As long as the is pressure from the bit on either side of the mouth you will release endorphins. The one rein stop is a perfect example of how to do this.

The reason your horse didn't lie down was because you let it's head straighten up which took pressure off the acupoint stopping the endorphin flow. If you kept hold of it a bit longer your horse would have to spraed it's front legs apart to counter a lack of balance the loses while going sleepy, then a few moments later he would lie down for you ..

This can only work while the horse is in a stationary position, the endorphins aren't strong enough to over-ride the horse if it's moving and thinking, too much brain activity. It works when they have stop because there is much brain if the horse is just standing there.

In the early stage of finding an easy way to do this, I used to get on them on them and turn their head as if I was doing a one rein stop because my arm would get tired holding their heads as they got heavier..I was doing it on the one spot and not moving thats all..

But please don't try this yet..

I would rather people just give the "Half-tap" a try an watch signs of endorphin release like heavy heads, sleepy eyes and the front legs apart. Just practice by holding for a short time and releaseing again, then next time hold it for a little longer etc..

That's why its called the "Tap", once you let their heads go, it turns off..

Please try this and get the hang of it first and then ask me for the next step..

Tip : There must be tension in one of the reins for this to work. If you horse is turning his own head and the reins are loose they won't be any pressure on the acupoint around the mouth where the bit sits..

This does has no ill effects on the horse, I tapped one horse 10 times straight after each other to see if it would run out,

It didn't, I did....
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Is there a reason why we have to wait to read every step? Most of us just are interested in learning about your technique, not actually trying it.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:54 PM   #165
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something sounds off here ! somehow it seems cruel still. i mean you are bsically drugging a horse to listen to you ? !! it seems so wrong
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:06 PM   #166
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No, not really..

The principal is the same for the "Half-tap", "Full-tap" which is turn the horse's head and wait..

I would just like to hear back on their progress to see if I could make it any easier for them..

I would only recomend doing the riding part to experienced riders because horse are so heavy and I don't want anyone to jump off before the horse sits down, its safer on them..

I will put more videos to study on my site later today ok !!

Once people can see the video's the concept should be a lot clearer..
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Okay, I have a question. If you train horses based on the principle of pressure and release, would this still work?

When I do a one-rein stop, I wait until the horse gives into the pressure before I release. And, I have actually had horses that pull against me for a while, and they do actually seem to go to sleep. None have actually fallen over or laid down, but their eyes do get heavy. Anyway, when this happens, I yield the hind end until the finally give, then they get the release. So, what would this do to that method of training? It seems to me that it would just confuse the horse.
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This was is an easy restraint method to used instead of a twitch and strap etc..

This will not effect your educating your horse while riding because this is done from the ground, you would never need to put your horse down riding, this would come in handy riding if your horse was rearing or started pig-rooting or bucking and wouldn't stop or a bandage came loose ******** your horse out..

The other exception is to tire your horse on purpose like I had to one day after the horse at the races freaked out in the starting gates and refused to go in after that because the trust in the gates had been lost.

I had to apply the "Full-tap" 3 times to get total compliance and wear down his defences to show him the gates weren't so bad after all.. He is racing again now fine..
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This will not effect your educating your horse while riding because this is done from the ground.
What if your horse gives to pressure? To me, a horse should not brace on the end of my rein or leadrope no matter where I am, riding or otherwise, so in my mind if the horse never braces it won't release the endorphins. Is this correct? I'm not bashing, just asking a question.
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