[PaintedPNH]

Originally Posted by Endorphins4u2

I looked at your profiles and saw you most of you were old enough to vote .. I have been riding longer than you cow-girls have been alive..if you think you have stopped learning now , you are in for a big shock..

That why you have to be 18 to vote because kids can not make serious evaluations on subjects

Okay I HAVE to say something about THAT. Just because you are 50 and not 15 doesnt mean you have more horse knowledge. And the years you have spent riding mean little if they werent years of QUALITY riding and experience. This is what urks me...older people who put us down because of our age. I know A LOT and I am very knowledgable about horses so don't you dare give me this crock.

And I am perfectly capable of making serious evalutions on topics. I know proper training from improper and the difference between forcing and asking. I know when a method is smart, moral, and right and when its cruel.

[Endorphins4u2]

OK bye !!!

[CarolinaFilly]

Wow. I guess I can see in extremee cases where that would be helpful. I agree with paintedPNH, age does not matter. You either know your stuff, or you don't. I don't agree with using age as a insult. I do see the logic in your method, and will keep an eye open and see what it progreess to. I do not think I'll ever use it, but like a few others said if the need came its better than some alternatives....

Good luck with it and welcome to HGS. Hope to see you around more.

[PaintedPNH]

I'm not putting down your method at this point I'm trying to make a point of my own. I can see using it if vet work is neccessary on an unruly horse but as a training method I dont agree.

[Caterina]

Originally Posted by Endorphins4u2

At the moment there is nothing to buy, it at the site to view for free. I just left some stuff off.

You can use your own bridle,

Just turn your horse's head around and wait..thats all

Just read through all this.... still on the fence...
Though I will say this, in a clinic I took two years ago, one of the things the clinician had us doing was if our got "upset" or what not, we'd stand by a shoulder and bring thier head around to it. I found that it did help in "calming" the horse down... give them a time out... now we did this in conjunction of other stuff we'd been shown. And by the end most horses were very relaxed and would actually with the light touch of our hand- bring thier heads to the ground.

I'm not sure I'd want to try the Full Tap...manly becuase for 1. id be afraid id get squished.... and for 2. like i said earlier im still on teh fence.

Cudos for coming back and explaining yourself.

[Nahara freckles]

Yeah i am only 12 and know a lot, but that dosn't mean i know everything i learned a lot by this thread. I will not say what i agree with and what i don't b/c i don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. But just try learn more, u learn stuff knew everyday. It could be anything. But i hope all this works out for everybody.

[Nahara freckles]

yeah i can see where it may be helpful too. You never know it could come to be pretty handy.

[arabianlover]

ok, Im just gonna say MY opineion, and dont judge me cause Im 14.
I just gotr my horse in may. A 7 year old never broke over 16hh mare. I couldnt hardly touch her, let alone fix her halter, and waat I did was go at things naturally, I did a LOT of research on NATURAL horsemanship and I feel that it is one of the best ways to earn true trust and REALLY have a well trained horse!!

Mariah

and we really dont mean to chase you off!!

[Carab]

hmm, its sound good in theory, but I think I will stick to the good old fashioned way of breaking in a horse, by getting them to respond because they want to not because they're basically "drugged".

[bay_blnd jmpr07]

Originally Posted by Endorphins4u2

Also, can anyone lend me a "Mavis Beacon" cd so I have a chance to keep up with these cow-girls...

LMAO!!! Sorry...I did that in 3rd grade!! OMGosh that was the "highlight" of the day!! LOL We called it "Make me bacon" instead though...The good old days...haha