Do I need a new farrier? (PICS)

horseluvr4ever · 06-02-2006, 08:09 PM

I don't think they look bad, but I'm not an expert at hooves!

JBandRio · 06-02-2006, 08:39 PM

Goonhorse, the front feet are likely tender on gravel because of how they have been trimmed. Any time toes or sides (quarters) are allowed to become long, that is called a flare. Whenever you have a flare, you have a stretched white line. The higher up the flare, the higher up the white line is stretched. Since the white line is what provides the connection between the hoof wall and the inner structures, a weak (stretched) white line can allow the sole to flatten and the coffin bone to drop down a little bit (or a lot). Technically that is mild (or not so mild) chronic laminitis (the stretching of the white line) and sinking founder (the coffin bone dropping a little). Technically

Goonhorse · 06-03-2006, 05:04 AM

Thanks JBandRio! Like I said, I'm not an expert, but I thought it looked foundered, but I guess I was wrong!

JBandRio · 06-03-2006, 07:59 AM

Goonhorse, not TOTALLY wrong, but the growth of the hoof as seen here is not what you normall see on a truly foundered foot, if that makes sense. Technically, yes, any time the coffin bone is forced into a different positon from it's healthy position, I guess you could call that founder. Whether it's mechanical, due to poor trimming, or metabolic, due to, for example, binging on grain, the fact still remains the coffin bone isn't where it's supposed to be.

But when you have acute founder, the growth of the foot starts to follow a pattern that is indicative of the problem. This usually means there are high heels and dished toes (like here, though in this case the high heels and long toes are causing the "founder"), and there are clearly visible growth rings corresponding to faster heel growth rate and slower toe growth rate.

I hope that makes sense

jakesterlover · 06-03-2006, 04:53 PM

they dont look good but go with wut u think. It wouldn't hurt to change

06-02-2006, 08:09 PM	#21
horseluvr4ever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In the barn (Illinois) Posts: 715 Images: 14	I don't think they look bad, but I'm not an expert at hooves! __________________ Color rides n wins Go Chicago Cubs!!!

06-02-2006, 08:39 PM	#22
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,448 Images: 143 Blog Entries: 12	Goonhorse, the front feet are likely tender on gravel because of how they have been trimmed. Any time toes or sides (quarters) are allowed to become long, that is called a flare. Whenever you have a flare, you have a stretched white line. The higher up the flare, the higher up the white line is stretched. Since the white line is what provides the connection between the hoof wall and the inner structures, a weak (stretched) white line can allow the sole to flatten and the coffin bone to drop down a little bit (or a lot). Technically that is mild (or not so mild) chronic laminitis (the stretching of the white line) and sinking founder (the coffin bone dropping a little). Technically __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

06-03-2006, 05:04 AM	#23
Goonhorse Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,855 Images: 262 Blog Entries: 151	Thanks JBandRio! Like I said, I'm not an expert, but I thought it looked foundered, but I guess I was wrong! __________________ I never deserved such mercy, Or merited so much grace. But this unworthy man just can't understand Why that Man of no wrong took my rightful place.

06-03-2006, 07:59 AM	#24
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,448 Images: 143 Blog Entries: 12	Goonhorse, not TOTALLY wrong, but the growth of the hoof as seen here is not what you normall see on a truly foundered foot, if that makes sense. Technically, yes, any time the coffin bone is forced into a different positon from it's healthy position, I guess you could call that founder. Whether it's mechanical, due to poor trimming, or metabolic, due to, for example, binging on grain, the fact still remains the coffin bone isn't where it's supposed to be. But when you have acute founder, the growth of the foot starts to follow a pattern that is indicative of the problem. This usually means there are high heels and dished toes (like here, though in this case the high heels and long toes are causing the "founder"), and there are clearly visible growth rings corresponding to faster heel growth rate and slower toe growth rate. I hope that makes sense __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

06-03-2006, 04:53 PM	#25
jakesterlover Full Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: At the barn ,Jake! Posts: 198 Images: 4	they dont look good but go with wut u think. It wouldn't hurt to change __________________ *Jakester* *There is no secret so close as that between a rider and her horse* *No one can teach riding as well as your horse*

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