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Almost a year ago I bought my saddle and had it checked by my instructor ...
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    Do I need a back cinch?

    Almost a year ago I bought my saddle and had it checked by my instructor and other educated horse friends. I was told it fit her, but I may need a back cinch as it tended not the sit quite right on her back. I decided to wait and see, and nothing ever came up that indicated that i would need a back cinch, so I never got one. (I figured the saddle had settled/slightly changed its shape and melded to Stars back more so that it sat better)

    Well, lately Star has been very touchy about her back. When I touch it, she flinches it (as if there were a fly there) and when I go to put on the saddle pad she pins her ears. (Before this she has never had any type of saddling problem) So, are these signs that I could need a back cinch? She doesn't seem to have any problems with the saddle in the wither area, just her back, which is why I am wondering if a back cinch could solve that problem, but I have little experiance with that piece of equipment, so, I need advice!


    In case it helps, this is where her back has been hurting (I circled roughly where it is...):

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    No! You need a different saddle. A back cinch is not used to "fit" the saddle to the horse. A back cinch is used for roping to take some of the pressure off the front cinch and horn holding all the tension from the rope and cow. I would not put this saddle back on her as it is deffinately contributing to her pain and will totally sour her to being saddled and ridden. Do you have access to a saddler who also will come out and check the fit of a saddle to your horse? Or someone who is very experianced with western horses. That would be your best option.

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    Agreed! But those back cinches sure do come in handy when a horse bucks so high that the saddle stands straight up on his withers . I experienced that first hand as a young'un with my pony. Won't ever forget that!! Funny now when I think of it.

    Edited to say I wonder what the person who said you may need a back cinch to make the saddle fit right rides like? Back cinches have no effect on how the saddle fits as it shouldn't touch (and if it does just barely, it's not a bucking strap) the horse's belly. And it surely shouldn't hang as loose as the new 'trend' in the cutting arenas. A horse could surely hang a foot in there, then a wild ride would occur!
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    endurgirl - funny, yep, would work for that too.

    One more thing you might have checked on your mare is to have a vet check on her kidneys, this is pretty close in the area you circled. And sometimes a saddle that fits one year (heck even one month ago) may not fit now. As a horse gains or looses muscle and weight it can change the fit of a saddle. I'm not trying to scare or chide you. You just need to have all the things that might be causing the trouble checked out. Some horses never give you any hints that something is wrong, they just keep going stoicly on and never complain. Be proud you noticed this now and can fix the problem.

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    A new saddle would be nice, but you can try a saddle pad with extra padding in the front to help balance it out until you get one that fits her better. Rising up in the back is not a good thing. My saddle does that too and I have a cut away pad with the extra padding in the front. It makes it fit a little better. A back cinch does not fit tight on the horse anyway.
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    I agree with what everybody else is saying. I have a back cinch, and Lucky has allways had a back cinch. It's not like the front cinch where you tighten it down, it does not even touch. There should be ABOUT an inch between your horse and the cinch of free space. All it does is keep the saddle down when the horse bucks, (like others have been saying) and basically just to keep the saddle from flipping up in the back. When I lunge with a saddle on, the saddle bounces up and down without the back cinch. They are NEVER used to make a saddle fit better though. It's like saying that your shoelaces make your shoes FIT better. I don't think you need a back cinch... not many do, heck... I don't even NEED to have one. I just prefer to for me and my horse, its different for everybody though. Again, I agree with the others... a new saddle would be the best choice. Make sure that you have the saddle (new and current) checked by an actual saddle fitting person like doublebarr said.. who knows, maybe it is a phisical problem. Hope you get it figured out! Take care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shell
    A new saddle would be nice, but you can try a saddle pad with extra padding in the front to help balance it out until you get one that fits her better. Rising up in the back is not a good thing. My saddle does that too and I have a cut away pad with the extra padding in the front. It makes it fit a little better. A back cinch does not fit tight on the horse anyway.
    Yea, I agree with Shell. I was going to ask what type of pad you use. There are all types of pads out there that really help balance out a saddle. But, I do agree, to have her kidneys checked, and yellow sulfur helps with kidney problems.

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    I was dreading you guys would say that... I have a hard to fit horse, she is very wide, but has a very short back. It was hard enough to get this saddle to fit. I use a very thin pad under the saddle, becasue of her width thick pads are not an option with this saddle.... I just think its strange that I had absolutly no problems for over a year and now suddenly her back hurts? What could explain that?

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    Her back can hurt from romping in the field. I would have a chiropractor look at her and your saddle.
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    save a proud rider on so proud back.”
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    I was just thinking... I got a saddle pad for Christmas that I was using for a while, but stopped using it as it was too thick and was making the front part of the saddle fit wrong. Could this have affected her back as well, and now her back is just getting used to the saddle that fits right, so her back hurts, but is getting better? Is that possible, or am I just kidding myself?

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