Dangerous Leading Horse

bay_blnd jmpr07 · 12-29-2003, 06:28 PM

there is this one mare who got to the barn a week after Fiona did. the mare is 7(like Fiona) but she is dangerous!! she seems like the sweetest horse, but she dangerous to lead. she never looks where she is going so she bumps right into you. then she'll freak when she does and be 'omg!' and try to run. its times when i'm leading her i'm glad the mare isnt mine and i have Fiona because Fiona keeps her space and looks occasionally but she makes sure she doesnt bump into me. and when you put the mare in her stall you have to shut the door all the way because she'll barge thru you. she did that to my mom. my mom went out of the stall, slammed into the other side of the isle and her thumb is messed up and she has to have therapy on it.this is a great horse and could do many great things at shows and what not. but her owner spends no time with her! all he does is get to the barn, put her in cross-ties, tack her up, ride for an hour(if he can get her to move), untack, and put back in her stall. i said if he can get her to move because she's started this habit where she'll be going just fine and all of a sudden just stop. he'll nudge her to move forward and she'll kick out with her left hand leg. then he'll use his crop(he uses it a lot nd u can hear it smack every time)she'll still kick out w/ the left hind and not move. and at the same time he's hanging on her mouth! he gives her more rein after his mother told him very sternly too(this was a night when i was riding Fiona) and the mare still wouldnt move. so the mother got on her, gave her the buckle and got her into a trot. then she asked for the canter, the mare gave one buck(pretty big tho) but went into the canter so she was praised.

but seriously, this boy needs to spend more time with his horse! he never bonded with her before getting on her back for the first time. i bonded w/ Fiona for a week before i attempted getting on her. and i used to wish the other mare was mine! man, have i thought twice! i love Fiona for being such the lady that she is. sure she misbehaves once in awhile but whose horse doesnt? and its never really bad. shes bucked twice since i've had her, bit me once(i bit her back, she's never attemted to bite me again LOL)and she's broken the occasional cross-tie(once she spooked, the other time she got bored, yanked it, stared at it, then started flipping it up in the air and then spooked LOL)i love my Fiona baby.

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Jumpers · 12-29-2003, 06:33 PM

It sounds like this horse has a health issue going on. Like pain, partial blindness, etc. She should be vet checked before this is ruled as a behavioral problem. Horses don't generally run into people and then act shocked about it.

bay_blnd jmpr07 · 12-29-2003, 06:43 PM

this horse was vet checked the other week. and she had the Equi-Myo person check her over for the kicking thing. she wasnt stiff any where and her back wasnt sore. but when the mom gets on the mare she's fine except for one kick and a buck and then shes fine. but when the boy rides she's a pain! its even frustrating just watching the horse not move and the rider hanging on the mouth. we(at the barn)have decided that the mare is a very insecure horse. she's always screaming, kicking, and rearing in her stall(we spy on the horses to see if they do anything unusual) but when a person is near she just nickers. i think she needs human interaction from her owner. not just ride everyday, but lead her around the arean and work on ground manners.

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QHlover · 12-30-2003, 05:50 AM

Jumpers, I have to disagree. It sounds like a respect issue to me. A serious respect issue!! One that needs to be dealt with immediately. Respect starts on the ground, so I can almost guarantee that if that horse gains respect while worked on the ground, then riding her will be much more of a pleasure.

Dawn · 12-30-2003, 06:33 AM

I agree with Jumpers. Yes horses will run over with lack of respect, but they aren't suprised about it. Did the vet do a thorough check on her eyes? I know sometimes they just do a really quick reflex test on them, and that doesn't show all types of problems.

QHlover · 12-30-2003, 06:56 AM

You don't need a vet to tell you if a horse is blind or not. There are a few ways to check: 1-flick your hand at his eye (like your flicking water off of your hands), if the horse blinks or acts like he thinks you're going to poke him in the eye, then he can see; 2-wave your hands near his eyes; 3-take your horse in a dark stall, where there is no light at all, and shine a light in her eyes...if they glow green she has what you call "moon-blindness."

QHlover · 12-30-2003, 06:59 AM

Yes the horse could possibly be blind, but it's highly unlikely considering the way the horse looks around. She's probably not paying attention, then when she runs into someone, it startles her. You know how when you are concentrating on something and your not paying attention to where you are going, then you almost run into someone? Well that's how horses are. Wherever their ears are pointed, that's where their attention is concentrated. So GET THE HORSE'S ATTENTION!

Dawn · 12-30-2003, 07:25 AM

If you'll look at my post, I didnt' say the horse was blind. I said it probably had a vision problem. And yes there are ways you can check without a vet, but for somethings, it requires specific tests.

QHlover · 12-30-2003, 07:32 AM

Well sooorrryyy! Everybody looks for excuses! This forum should be called "Horse Excuses Forum."

Dawn · 12-30-2003, 07:37 AM

check your pm's qhlover.

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12-29-2003, 06:33 PM	#2
Jumpers Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,216	It sounds like this horse has a health issue going on. Like pain, partial blindness, etc. She should be vet checked before this is ruled as a behavioral problem. Horses don't generally run into people and then act shocked about it.

12-30-2003, 05:50 AM	#4
QHlover Full Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 282	Jumpers, I have to disagree. It sounds like a respect issue to me. A serious respect issue!! One that needs to be dealt with immediately. Respect starts on the ground, so I can almost guarantee that if that horse gains respect while worked on the ground, then riding her will be much more of a pleasure.

12-30-2003, 06:33 AM	#5
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,599 Images: 1283	I agree with Jumpers. Yes horses will run over with lack of respect, but they aren't suprised about it. Did the vet do a thorough check on her eyes? I know sometimes they just do a really quick reflex test on them, and that doesn't show all types of problems.

12-30-2003, 06:56 AM	#6
QHlover Full Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 282	You don't need a vet to tell you if a horse is blind or not. There are a few ways to check: 1-flick your hand at his eye (like your flicking water off of your hands), if the horse blinks or acts like he thinks you're going to poke him in the eye, then he can see; 2-wave your hands near his eyes; 3-take your horse in a dark stall, where there is no light at all, and shine a light in her eyes...if they glow green she has what you call "moon-blindness."

12-30-2003, 06:59 AM	#7
QHlover Full Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 282	Yes the horse could possibly be blind, but it's highly unlikely considering the way the horse looks around. She's probably not paying attention, then when she runs into someone, it startles her. You know how when you are concentrating on something and your not paying attention to where you are going, then you almost run into someone? Well that's how horses are. Wherever their ears are pointed, that's where their attention is concentrated. So GET THE HORSE'S ATTENTION!

12-30-2003, 07:25 AM	#8
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,599 Images: 1283	If you'll look at my post, I didnt' say the horse was blind. I said it probably had a vision problem. And yes there are ways you can check without a vet, but for somethings, it requires specific tests.

12-30-2003, 07:32 AM	#9
QHlover Full Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 282	Well sooorrryyy! Everybody looks for excuses! This forum should be called "Horse Excuses Forum."

12-30-2003, 07:37 AM	#10
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,599 Images: 1283	check your pm's qhlover.