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    Question cool calories 100 or oil for weight gain??

    I was wondering what would be better for weight gain what would be better adding to his feed? the supplement cool calories 100 or some sort of oil? My vet suggested flex seed oil.

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    he is also on triple crown complete too

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    In my experience - Cool Calories 100 hasn't been "the trick" to put weight on. I love the concept, and it smells great, tastes like yucca fresh from the rain forest, but it just hasn't done it for any of the horses I've tried it on.

    I would go with oil or BOSS or weight builder or Calf Manna or rice bran or maybe trying the TC Sr instead (even though TC sr has less calories/pound, it does seem to add weight pretty well).

    I've been able to maintain weight after initial gain with CC100 however.

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    I really don't believe in using a supplement to put weight on, I haven't heard anything good about them and I haven't seen them work.

    I highly recommend corn, flax or canola oil. Rice bran is also REALLY effective, and it makes them super shiny Feeding good quality hay/forage is the first step though
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    I tried cool calories for my boy when I first got him, and I didn't think it worked at all..

    Then again, 2 people at my barn use it, and they found it works great! I guess it depends on the horse..

    I've tried BOSS, but I didn't like it, I've also tried oil.. I guess that worked okay, but I prefered to use something else..

    Rice Bran also doesn't work well... a few people at my barn tried it, and found it didn't work..
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    Funny, rice bran is usually the only thing we've seen worked. Every barn I've worked at has used rice bran or corn oil on any breed/type of horse, in any work level, in any age group and there has been a noticeable difference in their weight within the first two weeks. I've seen it used on dozens of horses, and it's probably the one thing that put those last few pounds on my rescue mare.

    It's not going to help if the horse isn't receiving proper forage and a good quality, proper weight of feed - that's for sure.
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    Some horses gain better on protein (calf manna, alfalfa) than fat (oil, rice bran). I like BOSS because it has high fat, fiber and good protein. I don't worry about the omega-inflammation because even if the ratio is hugely off, that doesn't mean the actual values are enough to effect the horse. I dislike beet pulp because it's empty calories (I use it as a source of fiber), and oftentimes makes the horse feel full and prevents further hay consumption (when fed in large quantities).

    I will experiment to see what works best for each horse. A horse may gain a little weight on rice bran, but try alfalfa pellets and they literally explode with bulk - I'll do one for a week and then add the other in and see what happens. It's hard to see a horse with fresh eyes every day, so a weight tape is invaluable when determining weight gain/loss.

    ETA: if you add too much fat (beyond 10% of total ration) you risk accelerating the feed through the gut, eliminating the chance for the bacteria to finish breaking the nutrients down and the horse absorbing them. This results in a less efficient digestive process and loss of calories rather than weight gain. Sometimes people figure their horse has a lot of weight to gain, so they throw fat at them, thinking that in humans the more fat that's consumed the more fat is stored, however that is counterproductive in horses. Start out with low levels of fat and increase slowly. I find the best weight gain to be around 6% fat of everything the horse consumes, including hay.
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    Yes - I am addicted to alfalfa pellets and I've only been using them for a month. They are AMAZING, and surprisingly my mare who gets hot just looking at sweet feed has no issues with them at all. Definitely a part of my feed program for good, now.
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    The trick with CC100 is that you have to feed enough of it. In the winter, the app gets enough to equal an extra scoop of grain because she's already at her max feed limit (between the senior, beet pulp, strategy, and alfalfa cubes)... this mare has very few teeth, so hay is simply a boredom buster and the BP and AC are a must. I've had very good results with it... from just adding a little extra for some shine or throwing on the weight.

    I don't care for oil simply for the mess factor.
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    How do you consider beet pulp "empty calories"?

    http://shady-acres.com/susan/beetpulp.shtml
    Therefore, although beet pulp contains somewhat less energy on a pound for pound basis than grains, it can provide more total calories to the horse when substituted for part of the forage portion of the ration, or used to extend and "dilute" a meal of grain. Although lower in fiber than most hays, beet pulp can be used to replace up to 50% of the forage portion of the ration-a feeding strategy which can significantly increase total calories without increasing the risk of colic or founder.
    The whole article is great, Susan is amazing and the rides she puts on are great, as well. Very knowledgeable.



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