Confused about Mare's Bucking!

Dawn11 · 08-31-2007, 07:39 PM

I have a mare who I work with and ride in a round pen she does so well, she listens great to all my que's and does everything I ask. When I ride her there is no problems, she walks, trots, and canters when asked.

My problem is this, I can work with my mare for about half an hour lunging and stuff before I get on to ride. I will take her into my field and she does good for about 5 min and then BANG she starts bucking and deeking to the side trying to lose me.

She has bucked EVERYONE off that has ridden her in the field (5) in total. She has tried it with me everytime I take her out there and am ashamed to say she succeded for the first time in loosing me 2 days ago. I hurt my leg pretty good when I was thrown on the saddle horn but did get back on her for about 15 - 20 min and everytime I got up to a canter or even a quick trot she tried to lose me again.

I have not been able to get on her again because of my leg but as soon as I can I will be on her back.

My question is this, If she is so well behaved in the pen (with the saddle on) for our sessions and riding why is she so bad out in the field.
I even tried to lunge her in the field and she tried to rip my arm off, got loose by pulling me almost onto my face, took off running and bucking, lapped the field and then tried charging my. She got to within about 5 feet of me at a GALLOP and I cracked the whip at her and she had to sit on her butt and bury her front hooves up to her "ankles" in the grass and dirt in order to stop, then she took off again.

I don't know what has gotten in to her?

jessetjames · 08-31-2007, 08:22 PM

here is what u should do when ever she starts to buck take ur rein and pull it so here haid almosts or tuches ur boot then she wont be able to buck or rear any more and after a while she should stop

Friesiangirl · 08-31-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jessetjames

here is what u should do when ever she starts to buck take ur rein and pull it so here haid almosts or tuches ur boot then she wont be able to buck or rear any more and after a while she should stop

Well, some horses pig root and jump side ways when you do this. And yes, it can be done. I would know.

Sounds like she has no respect and knows she can get away with it. I would keep her mind busy. OR when she bucks, make her WORK. Get her mind working too. Soon as you can slow it up a bit, trot her out, circles etc.

Have to make it more of a hassel to misbehave than to do what is asked.

Julia Gulia · 08-31-2007, 08:56 PM

How old is she and what is her history?

midniteontherox · 08-31-2007, 09:11 PM

Three words. WIDE OPEN SPACES!!
Freedom... She sees the chance to run. My gelding sometimes does this even when we are in an oversized arena.
I know a lot of horses that when in the "field" associate it with being with their pasture buddies and run and buck and play. They kinda forget they have a rider. lol
Just practice is the only advice I have. You have to ride her in the field to get her used to the fact that there is a difference between play time and work time.

midniteontherox · 08-31-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jessetjames

here is what u should do when ever she starts to buck take ur rein and pull it so here haid almosts or tuches ur boot then she wont be able to buck or rear any more and after a while she should stop

I agree with this. My gelding knows that when I ask him to do a tighter circle than normal, hes upsetting me. And he straightens up right away.
Id rather them go to the side then buck and tack off. But thats just me.

Rockytop · 08-31-2007, 09:35 PM

Sounds like she's full of pee n vinegar (too fresh) and fairly green.

Before I'd ride her out in the field again, I'd work her in the arena/corral (and I mean really give her a workout - make her sweat - might take you an hour or more, but so be it).

Once she's starting to tire out and relax, then get a friend who has a good, steady horse to ride out in the field with you. This will also give her the security to see that there's no need to get excited about being asked to work in the field.

Day one in the field after her big workout - lots of nice and easy walking with direction changes and frequent stops. She'll be tired and will appreciate this.

Day two in the field. Same as day one - tired horse enjoying nice cool-out under saddle with a companion.

Day three in field. Take tired horse and ask her to walk with occasional short bursts of trotting mixed in. Again, frequent stops to reward her and keep her alert to your cues, and use direction changes to maintain her attention. Also would recommend buddy riding with you still.

Day four same as day three. Only advance to increase in gait when the horse is showing no signs of anxiety at slower paces. If horse gets worked up at faster gait, then return to slower pace; if she still acts up now is the time to head back to the arena/pen, work her until she settles in again before returning to the field.

**Remember that it will take time and patience. You want her to feel that being ridden in the field is not a reason to get excited (worked up), but more of a nice place to relax under saddle. You may take five days of riding at the walk in the field before you can advance to a trot. It all depends on the temperment of the mare and your diligence in making sure that she's not fresh when you ride her out in at this point in her training.

Rome wasn't built in a day, and a steady saddle horse isn't either.

Hope this makes sense. I'm kind of tired tonight, so my writing is probably even more disjointed than usual. Best wishes for many happy rides with your mare!

Take care.

PatrioticPOA · 08-31-2007, 09:56 PM

Oh, dear. Major issue. My question is, is this field where she is turned out?

Keep her head up. Don't let it drop to far, keep your hands up and relaxed. Sounds like we got disrespect with the whole charging you. Good for you to keep her off of you. If you aren't doing ground work with her, I'd deffently think this is a good idea.

If she grabs the bit in her mouth and takes off with you, use your "pully rein" like jessetjames said but don't use it all the time. I know it hurts but getting back on right away is crusial. My friend's horse figured that out the first time when he bucked her off. She ended up in the emergency room, and this was the first time he did it. After that, my trainer got on him and his back was like a rock and he exploded and bucked her off! Notice your horse's signs. Feel her back under you. Is she really tense? Keep her mind busy, do lots of upperword (when you are ready) and downward transistions.

Are you tightening the girth to quickly? Does her tack fit probably? Are her teeth sensitive? What kind of bit do you use? Some horses are really sensitive to that kinda thing.

I'm trying to rack my brain thinking of why she would do this. But the major question is what does she have with that field. Yes, it seems like freedom, but is she okay on the trail? What's up?

Best of luck!

Atanquin · 09-01-2007, 01:39 AM

i also do one rain stops and wait till they clam down or if they are still being naughty actually make them go around and around cause they don't like that and soon learn to behave but u have make sure when your asking them to go around that your no kick with both legs only the one that makes her turn around

Dawn11 · 09-01-2007, 06:44 AM

Wow, thanks for all the great advice.
First off she is 6 yr old, (I know that's still young).
I was riding her in the field she is turned out in (other horses were locked out) BUT she does this no matter where you ride her if it's an open area. The other prople she has lost were in different places.
I don't use a bit with her because we thought this might have been the reason she was bucking in the first place (the bit) so now I use a hackamore.
Even then her teeth are fine and her tack is fine like I said I can ride her anyway I want in the round pen W/T/C and she is fine, no issues.
I do work her from the ground EVERY time before I get on her, she is sweating and breathing hard before I get on her but she still manages to get the energy to try and lose someone.

USUALLY SUCCEEDING! LOL.

I wish I had a friend the owned a HORSE never mind a quiet one lol. I am the only one that has a horse and I KNOW it would make a huge differance if there was another one to ride with us. She comes from a riding stable so that is what she is use to. I don't think she was out by herself before so I am sure she gets nervous BUT we have yet to leave my property where she would have reason to be scared (in her mind).

When she is bucking like crazy you say to turn her head around well I have to say I am so busy trying to stay IN the saddle at that point that turning her head is the last thing I would think of but when I am riding her BEFORE she bucks I have often thought of this and I worry that she is going so fast when she is bucking that if I was to turn her so quick and tightly into a small circle she mightlose her balance and end up on her side. Is this stupid? Can it happen or am I being over dramatic?

Thanks again.

08-31-2007, 07:39 PM	#1
Dawn11 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 360	Confused about Mare's Bucking! I have a mare who I work with and ride in a round pen she does so well, she listens great to all my que's and does everything I ask. When I ride her there is no problems, she walks, trots, and canters when asked. My problem is this, I can work with my mare for about half an hour lunging and stuff before I get on to ride. I will take her into my field and she does good for about 5 min and then BANG she starts bucking and deeking to the side trying to lose me. She has bucked EVERYONE off that has ridden her in the field (5) in total. She has tried it with me everytime I take her out there and am ashamed to say she succeded for the first time in loosing me 2 days ago. I hurt my leg pretty good when I was thrown on the saddle horn but did get back on her for about 15 - 20 min and everytime I got up to a canter or even a quick trot she tried to lose me again. I have not been able to get on her again because of my leg but as soon as I can I will be on her back. My question is this, If she is so well behaved in the pen (with the saddle on) for our sessions and riding why is she so bad out in the field. I even tried to lunge her in the field and she tried to rip my arm off, got loose by pulling me almost onto my face, took off running and bucking, lapped the field and then tried charging my. She got to within about 5 feet of me at a GALLOP and I cracked the whip at her and she had to sit on her butt and bury her front hooves up to her "ankles" in the grass and dirt in order to stop, then she took off again. I don't know what has gotten in to her?

08-31-2007, 08:22 PM	#2
jessetjames Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 792 Images: 11	here is what u should do when ever she starts to buck take ur rein and pull it so here haid almosts or tuches ur boot then she wont be able to buck or rear any more and after a while she should stop __________________ I am part of The Purebred Crossbred Club President of the only way to ride, WESTERN built for speed built for tough, WESTERN GAMER President. Tough Guys Ride Horses President

08-31-2007, 08:56 PM	#4
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08-31-2007, 09:11 PM	#5
midniteontherox Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 320 Images: 36	Three words. WIDE OPEN SPACES!! Freedom... She sees the chance to run. My gelding sometimes does this even when we are in an oversized arena. I know a lot of horses that when in the "field" associate it with being with their pasture buddies and run and buck and play. They kinda forget they have a rider. lol Just practice is the only advice I have. You have to ride her in the field to get her used to the fact that there is a difference between play time and work time.

08-31-2007, 09:35 PM	#7
Rockytop Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Beautiful Peace River Country, BC Posts: 506	Sounds like she's full of pee n vinegar (too fresh) and fairly green. Before I'd ride her out in the field again, I'd work her in the arena/corral (and I mean really give her a workout - make her sweat - might take you an hour or more, but so be it). Once she's starting to tire out and relax, then get a friend who has a good, steady horse to ride out in the field with you. This will also give her the security to see that there's no need to get excited about being asked to work in the field. Day one in the field after her big workout - lots of nice and easy walking with direction changes and frequent stops. She'll be tired and will appreciate this. Day two in the field. Same as day one - tired horse enjoying nice cool-out under saddle with a companion. Day three in field. Take tired horse and ask her to walk with occasional short bursts of trotting mixed in. Again, frequent stops to reward her and keep her alert to your cues, and use direction changes to maintain her attention. Also would recommend buddy riding with you still. Day four same as day three. Only advance to increase in gait when the horse is showing no signs of anxiety at slower paces. If horse gets worked up at faster gait, then return to slower pace; if she still acts up now is the time to head back to the arena/pen, work her until she settles in again before returning to the field. **Remember that it will take time and patience. You want her to feel that being ridden in the field is not a reason to get excited (worked up), but more of a nice place to relax under saddle. You may take five days of riding at the walk in the field before you can advance to a trot. It all depends on the temperment of the mare and your diligence in making sure that she's not fresh when you ride her out in at this point in her training. Rome wasn't built in a day, and a steady saddle horse isn't either. Hope this makes sense. I'm kind of tired tonight, so my writing is probably even more disjointed than usual. Best wishes for many happy rides with your mare! Take care.

09-01-2007, 01:39 AM	#9
Atanquin Full Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia,QLD, born in england moved here 6yrs ago Posts: 33 Images: 7	i also do one rain stops and wait till they clam down or if they are still being naughty actually make them go around and around cause they don't like that and soon learn to behave but u have make sure when your asking them to go around that your no kick with both legs only the one that makes her turn around

09-01-2007, 06:44 AM	#10
Dawn11 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 360	Wow, thanks for all the great advice. First off she is 6 yr old, (I know that's still young). I was riding her in the field she is turned out in (other horses were locked out) BUT she does this no matter where you ride her if it's an open area. The other prople she has lost were in different places. I don't use a bit with her because we thought this might have been the reason she was bucking in the first place (the bit) so now I use a hackamore. Even then her teeth are fine and her tack is fine like I said I can ride her anyway I want in the round pen W/T/C and she is fine, no issues. I do work her from the ground EVERY time before I get on her, she is sweating and breathing hard before I get on her but she still manages to get the energy to try and lose someone. USUALLY SUCCEEDING! LOL. I wish I had a friend the owned a HORSE never mind a quiet one lol. I am the only one that has a horse and I KNOW it would make a huge differance if there was another one to ride with us. She comes from a riding stable so that is what she is use to. I don't think she was out by herself before so I am sure she gets nervous BUT we have yet to leave my property where she would have reason to be scared (in her mind). When she is bucking like crazy you say to turn her head around well I have to say I am so busy trying to stay IN the saddle at that point that turning her head is the last thing I would think of but when I am riding her BEFORE she bucks I have often thought of this and I worry that she is going so fast when she is bucking that if I was to turn her so quick and tightly into a small circle she mightlose her balance and end up on her side. Is this stupid? Can it happen or am I being over dramatic? Thanks again.