Color Testing Question

Shannon · 04-05-2006, 01:58 PM

Quick question...I know you can send samples to UC Davis for genetic color test, but I've seen some people on here mention another testing location. If I remember right, it was in Texas? I want to test my mare for Agouti.

Thanks!

3WishesDun · 04-05-2006, 02:32 PM

Hey Shannon
The link I found for Texas is
This is the site...the link goes to the equine forms page
http://www.dnadiagnostics.com/index_files/Page392.htm
A list of labs with the Texas site listed first (same site as above)
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Outbac...neticLabs.html
Florida lab
http://www.animalgenetics.us/Equine.htm
Kentrucky
http://www.ca.uky.edu/gluck/EPTRL.asp

prettyqtrs · 04-05-2006, 02:34 PM

Not sure about any other ones. We do all of our testing through UC Davis. They are really good. We've tested over 10 horses through them and never had a problem.

Best wishes!

Shannon · 04-05-2006, 02:44 PM

Thank you so much

April, I noticed on the first link that they actually offer a test for sabino. I wonder if it would be worth it to test my mare...I mean, she may be minimal sabino, but she has no white on her legs. She has a big, splotchy, irregular blaze though....

Acme Acres · 04-05-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shannond

Thank you so much

April, I noticed on the first link that they actually offer a test for sabino. I wonder if it would be worth it to test my mare...I mean, she may be minimal sabino, but she has no white on her legs. She has a big, splotchy, irregular blaze though....

We submitted a multitude of samples to KY for testing on the Sabino gene. Bad thing is that there are different types of Sabinos (or something along those lines, can't remember what the exact wording was they told me), but several of our horses at the time were definatly Sabinos and they were unable to locate the marker for their types of Sabino.

Do you know what your girl's parents looked like? That's always a great place to start.

Shannon · 04-05-2006, 03:01 PM

Unfortunately no...I've never seen her parents. The sire only sired 12 foals and all are older than 7. The mare only had two foals, both by the same stud. They're in (or were in) Louisiana and I'm in CA. All I know is that the sire was bay and the dam chestnut, so at least I don't have to have a red factor test because she is clearly E/e.

My mare DID throw a bay sabino colt with a BIG blaze and 3 stockings, but the sire had the same markings on identical feet.

She does have 2 spots within her blaze, about 1.5" diameter, around her nostrils. I don't know if that makes a difference.

You can kind of see her blaze here:

She's pawing because I was holding her bucket of rice bran

Top Dun · 04-05-2006, 07:11 PM

Actually if you do the dna test at UC Davis, I believe the Red factor AND Agouti tests are combined in one test.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shannond

All I know is that the sire was bay and the dam chestnut, so at least I don't have to have a red factor test because she is clearly E/e.

Shannon · 04-05-2006, 07:13 PM

They also do separate testing for Agouti as well as the combined test. I just don't know why I'd pay more when her parentage tells of her genes

prettyqtrs · 04-05-2006, 07:14 PM

Yep- at UC Davis, Red Factor and Agouti are combined. Then Cream Dilution is seperate.

Shannon · 04-07-2006, 04:03 PM

You can see the spots on her nose there. Maybe I'm just crazy and that has nothing to do with sabino, but I thought I'd ask

04-05-2006, 01:58 PM	#1
Shannon Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 7,077 Images: 977 Blog Entries: 62	Color Testing Question Quick question...I know you can send samples to UC Davis for genetic color test, but I've seen some people on here mention another testing location. If I remember right, it was in Texas? I want to test my mare for Agouti. Thanks! __________________ Reina -- 1997 American Trakehner Mare <3 I've been snowballed! Member of the HGS 20 Pound Club... High Weight: 143 Start Weight: 133 Goal Weight: 103 Current Weight: 112

04-05-2006, 02:32 PM	#2
3WishesDun Senior Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: At My Wit's End Posts: 16,881 Images: 655 Blog Entries: 27	Hey Shannon The link I found for Texas is This is the site...the link goes to the equine forms page http://www.dnadiagnostics.com/index_files/Page392.htm A list of labs with the Texas site listed first (same site as above) http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Outbac...neticLabs.html Florida lab http://www.animalgenetics.us/Equine.htm Kentrucky http://www.ca.uky.edu/gluck/EPTRL.asp __________________ Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep. -Frost I've Been Snowballed!

04-05-2006, 02:34 PM	#3
prettyqtrs Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,079	Not sure about any other ones. We do all of our testing through UC Davis. They are really good. We've tested over 10 horses through them and never had a problem. Best wishes! __________________ ~Meg~ ~ Poco ~ BG ~ Star ~ Deville ~

04-05-2006, 02:44 PM	#4
Shannon Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 7,077 Images: 977 Blog Entries: 62	Thank you so much April, I noticed on the first link that they actually offer a test for sabino. I wonder if it would be worth it to test my mare...I mean, she may be minimal sabino, but she has no white on her legs. She has a big, splotchy, irregular blaze though.... __________________ Reina -- 1997 American Trakehner Mare <3 I've been snowballed! Member of the HGS 20 Pound Club... High Weight: 143 Start Weight: 133 Goal Weight: 103 Current Weight: 112

04-05-2006, 03:01 PM	#6
Shannon Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 7,077 Images: 977 Blog Entries: 62	Unfortunately no...I've never seen her parents. The sire only sired 12 foals and all are older than 7. The mare only had two foals, both by the same stud. They're in (or were in) Louisiana and I'm in CA. All I know is that the sire was bay and the dam chestnut, so at least I don't have to have a red factor test because she is clearly E/e. My mare DID throw a bay sabino colt with a BIG blaze and 3 stockings, but the sire had the same markings on identical feet. She does have 2 spots within her blaze, about 1.5" diameter, around her nostrils. I don't know if that makes a difference. You can kind of see her blaze here: She's pawing because I was holding her bucket of rice bran __________________ Reina -- 1997 American Trakehner Mare <3 I've been snowballed! Member of the HGS 20 Pound Club... High Weight: 143 Start Weight: 133 Goal Weight: 103 Current Weight: 112

04-05-2006, 07:13 PM	#8
Shannon Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 7,077 Images: 977 Blog Entries: 62	They also do separate testing for Agouti as well as the combined test. I just don't know why I'd pay more when her parentage tells of her genes __________________ Reina -- 1997 American Trakehner Mare <3 I've been snowballed! Member of the HGS 20 Pound Club... High Weight: 143 Start Weight: 133 Goal Weight: 103 Current Weight: 112

04-05-2006, 07:14 PM	#9
prettyqtrs Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,079	Yep- at UC Davis, Red Factor and Agouti are combined. Then Cream Dilution is seperate. __________________ ~Meg~ ~ Poco ~ BG ~ Star ~ Deville ~

04-07-2006, 04:03 PM	#10
Shannon Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 7,077 Images: 977 Blog Entries: 62	You can see the spots on her nose there. Maybe I'm just crazy and that has nothing to do with sabino, but I thought I'd ask __________________ Reina -- 1997 American Trakehner Mare <3 I've been snowballed! Member of the HGS 20 Pound Club... High Weight: 143 Start Weight: 133 Goal Weight: 103 Current Weight: 112

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