What Color Stud Do I need to get this color?

JohnnyBob'sMyBoy · 10-03-2006, 05:25 PM

I want to breed my mare Dixiebelle next year possibly and would like to get a buckskin overo. Dixie is a sorrel overo and I was wondering what color stud i would need to breed to to possibly get a buckskin???
thanks!

here are some pics of Dixie....

Blistering Winds · 10-03-2006, 05:38 PM

Black base with a creme....

So a smokey black, Buckskin....or if you can find one, a perlino will give you the best chances at the creme, and they are black based as well.

But remember, don't take "COLOR" as the only issue in your choice. Conformation should be above color.

JBandRio · 10-03-2006, 08:06 PM

To guarantee buckskin, you'd have to find a Perlino who is homozygous black and homozygous bay. There is no guarantee for Overo though.

Heavenly Jumper · 10-03-2006, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

But remember, don't take "COLOR" as the only issue in your choice. Conformation should be above color.

That's what I was going to say. Are you looking for a QH stallion? What are you wanting to do with the baby?

shell · 10-03-2006, 08:55 PM

On a sorrel coat, it is hard to get a buckskin. I don't even know if you could get a buckskin. You would be more likley to get a palomino.

JBandRio · 10-03-2006, 09:01 PM

shell, see my post on guaranteed buckskin

The mare is ee?? (2 red genes, unknown bay modifiers)
A Perlino who is homozygous black and bay is EEAACrCr

The Perlino will pass E, A, and Cr - that gives buckskin right off the bat. The mare will pass e and either a or A, and none of that trumps the buckskin that the Perlino gave. The foal would be EeA?Crcr - buckskin

Blistering Winds · 10-03-2006, 10:22 PM

I thought perlinos were agouti void. aa

JBandRio · 10-03-2006, 10:26 PM

Perlino is a double-dilute Bay

A smokey cream (or smokey black, or black) is aa.

Barn_Brat · 10-03-2006, 10:30 PM

Color isent a great reason to breed solely, Be sure to look for good confo, Records, bloodlines to!
Just A friendly rerminder Lol

Blistering Winds · 10-03-2006, 10:31 PM

ah...ok...but are they homozygous for the agouti?

According to the Animal Genetics Corporation.....the Agouti is either hetero or homozygous...same with the Black base....EE or Ee

10-03-2006, 05:25 PM	#1
JohnnyBob'sMyBoy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pennsylvannia Posts: 2,076 Images: 191 Blog Entries: 7	What Color Stud Do I need to get this color? I want to breed my mare Dixiebelle next year possibly and would like to get a buckskin overo. Dixie is a sorrel overo and I was wondering what color stud i would need to breed to to possibly get a buckskin??? thanks! here are some pics of Dixie.... __________________ My Horses: Raisin, Dixie, JB, Justy, LuLu and Lily.....LULU IS FOR SALE PM FOR INFO FORSALE FreeSpiritAcres

10-03-2006, 05:38 PM	#2
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	Black base with a creme.... So a smokey black, Buckskin....or if you can find one, a perlino will give you the best chances at the creme, and they are black based as well. But remember, don't take "COLOR" as the only issue in your choice. Conformation should be above color. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

10-03-2006, 08:06 PM	#3
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,448 Images: 143 Blog Entries: 12	To guarantee buckskin, you'd have to find a Perlino who is homozygous black and homozygous bay. There is no guarantee for Overo though. __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

10-03-2006, 08:55 PM	#5
shell Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Great North West Posts: 8,967 Images: 344	On a sorrel coat, it is hard to get a buckskin. I don't even know if you could get a buckskin. You would be more likley to get a palomino. __________________ “Look, what a horse should have he did not lack, save a proud rider on so proud back.” -Shakespear Marshalltown, Iowa, it is against the law for a horse to eat a fire hydrant.

10-03-2006, 09:01 PM	#6
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,448 Images: 143 Blog Entries: 12	shell, see my post on guaranteed buckskin The mare is ee?? (2 red genes, unknown bay modifiers) A Perlino who is homozygous black and bay is EEAACrCr The Perlino will pass E, A, and Cr - that gives buckskin right off the bat. The mare will pass e and either a or A, and none of that trumps the buckskin that the Perlino gave. The foal would be EeA?Crcr - buckskin __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

10-03-2006, 10:22 PM	#7
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	I thought perlinos were agouti void. aa __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

10-03-2006, 10:26 PM	#8
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,448 Images: 143 Blog Entries: 12	Perlino is a double-dilute Bay A smokey cream (or smokey black, or black) is aa. __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

10-03-2006, 10:30 PM	#9
Barn_Brat Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,302 Images: 7 Blog Entries: 5	Color isent a great reason to breed solely, Be sure to look for good confo, Records, bloodlines to! Just A friendly rerminder Lol

10-03-2006, 10:31 PM	#10
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	ah...ok...but are they homozygous for the agouti? According to the Animal Genetics Corporation.....the Agouti is either hetero or homozygous...same with the Black base....EE or Ee __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

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