Color Please

redhorseridge · 07-03-2009, 09:46 AM

The udder of a palomino can still be freckled, the the teats are usually black (or dark, compared to a champagne).

Here's a great page with many photos to differentiate perlino, champagne, palomino, etc:
http://www.ichregistry.com/identification.htm

ETA: I see SnaffleBit's photos came from this page....

Paxo · 07-03-2009, 09:48 AM

My first thought on the foal was champange.

Seein'Spots · 07-03-2009, 09:51 AM

beautiful foal...

ACCphotography · 07-03-2009, 01:19 PM

That foal is 100%, without question a gold champagne. No doubts about it.

Snaffle Bit · 07-03-2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhorseridge

The udder of a palomino can still be freckled, the the teats are usually black (or dark, compared to a champagne).

Here's a great page with many photos to differentiate perlino, champagne, palomino, etc:
http://www.ichregistry.com/identification.htm

ETA: I see SnaffleBit's photos came from this page....

Yep, I was thinking the dam's muzzle was very dark. So I went hunting to see if I could find a confirmed Champagne with a darker one as well.

notanumber · 07-03-2009, 05:10 PM

Is he confirmed though? Has he been tested? I still don't see anything about him that says 'champagne'. He totally looks pally.

Even his manly-parts are black skinned, and the eyes are normal. I just see pally.

Snaffle Bit · 07-03-2009, 05:15 PM

The ICHR is very good about it from what I'm told. They even helped people discover the "Pearl" dilute by recognizing it as not Champagne so I would trust them to know their examples are Champagnes.

You can see his foal coat is very "Champagne" in appearance as well, so yes, I personally would consider him confirmed. Also, I think his "man bits" are in shadow, making them look a lot darker than they may be.

notanumber · 07-03-2009, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaffle Bit

The ICHR is very good about it from what I'm told. They even helped people discover the "Pearl" dilute by recognizing it as not Champagne so I would trust them to know their examples are Champagnes.

You can see his foal coat is very "Champagne" in appearance as well, so yes, I personally would consider him confirmed. Also, I think his "man bits" are in shadow, making them look a lot darker than they may be.

People do make mistakes, especially if they are going by foal photos only. I'm not saying that for sure they are wrong and I am right, I'm just saying that there is nothing about this horse that would make me think he is champagne.

This photo tells me nothing - it could definitely be a palomino colt.

Snaffle Bit · 07-03-2009, 05:27 PM

You also have to go by pedigree. He is a Friesian cross so there is no chance of his sire giving him a cream gene. "Palomino" looking or not, genetically, he might only have a chance of being a Champagne.

notanumber · 07-03-2009, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaffle Bit

You also have to go by pedigree. He is a Friesian cross so there is no chance of his sire giving him a cream gene. "Palomino" looking or not, genetically, he might only have a chance of being a Champagne.

Unless the dam is Palomino . . .
Or the sire is not the sire . . .

I know the second one is very unlikely, but not impossible (that's why I started the 'friesian' thread, because I was thinking, "How did that come from that").

I'm going to try to find a pic of the dam we can look at.

07-03-2009, 09:51 AM	#13
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07-03-2009, 01:19 PM	#14
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07-03-2009, 05:15 PM	#17
Snaffle Bit Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Conroe, TX (Near Houston) Posts: 1,757	The ICHR is very good about it from what I'm told. They even helped people discover the "Pearl" dilute by recognizing it as not Champagne so I would trust them to know their examples are Champagnes. You can see his foal coat is very "Champagne" in appearance as well, so yes, I personally would consider him confirmed. Also, I think his "man bits" are in shadow, making them look a lot darker than they may be. __________________ At its finest, rider and horse are joined not by tack, but by trust. Each is totally reliant upon the other. Each is the selfless guardian of the other's very well-being. ~ Author Unknown 1,000 posts - 6/20/2009

07-03-2009, 05:27 PM	#19
Snaffle Bit Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Conroe, TX (Near Houston) Posts: 1,757	You also have to go by pedigree. He is a Friesian cross so there is no chance of his sire giving him a cream gene. "Palomino" looking or not, genetically, he might only have a chance of being a Champagne. __________________ At its finest, rider and horse are joined not by tack, but by trust. Each is totally reliant upon the other. Each is the selfless guardian of the other's very well-being. ~ Author Unknown 1,000 posts - 6/20/2009

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07-03-2009, 09:46 AM	#11
redhorseridge Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 796	The udder of a palomino can still be freckled, the the teats are usually black (or dark, compared to a champagne). Here's a great page with many photos to differentiate perlino, champagne, palomino, etc: http://www.ichregistry.com/identification.htm ETA: I see SnaffleBit's photos came from this page....

07-03-2009, 09:48 AM	#12
Paxo Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 549	My first thought on the foal was champange.

07-03-2009, 05:10 PM	#16
notanumber Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 951 Images: 76	Is he confirmed though? Has he been tested? I still don't see anything about him that says 'champagne'. He totally looks pally. Even his manly-parts are black skinned, and the eyes are normal. I just see pally.