[Paxo]

The gelding tobiano/sabino only IMO.

[imacowgirl2]

Originally Posted by RiddleMeThis

No it doesnt. Its between the withers and the tail that is technically considered the back

As for the gelding I am going to say frame and Tobiano possibly splash, but I dont think so. The markings are very similar to where tobianos have white, but then all of the edges are jagged making them look like frame markings. Tobiano causes the white on the legs. The reason IMO for the brown spots is a fight with frame and tobiano. Frame wants a white face and tobiano wants a colored face.

Thanks for the explanation

He does have the "freckles" in the white on his body and legs too...not just his face...do frame and tobi also fight on other areas of the body, or what would cause those freckles?

[imacowgirl2]

Originally Posted by Paxo

Frame is a side mouth moustache and splash is a nose nostril/front lip mustache JMO

Looks frame/splash. surly some form of sabino.

I assume you're referring to the filly in this post?

Originally Posted by Paxo

The gelding tobiano/sabino only IMO.

Again, for my poor lacking education, what makes you say that?

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by Paxo

The gelding tobiano/sabino only IMO.

The jagged edges to the body spots nearly guarantees Frame is in the picture as well

[RiddleMeThis]

Originally Posted by imacowgirl2

Thanks for the explanation

He does have the "freckles" in the white on his body and legs too...not just his face...do frame and tobi also fight on other areas of the body, or what would cause those freckles?

On the body possible on the legs most likely the same thing, frame wants colored legs and tobiano wants white legs.

[accphotography]

Filly: frame, splash, sabino. Frame due to the obvious amount of white in the framed pattern and the one odd colored leg where frame won the battle. Splash due to the bald face and the height of the white on the legs despite frame being present. Sabino due to odd spots, jagged edges and eye line on the one eye. Color guess is flaxen red dun, palomino, or dunalino.

Mare: Sabino only IMO.

Stud: Frame, splash (+ or - tobiano) Splash due to the bald face. Frame due to the amount and placement of white. Tobiano possible because I can't see enough of him.

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[accphotography]

Oh and seeing the last two comments before mine...

I personally feel all of those dark dots are actually a supressor gene trying to limit the tobiano. When frame and tobiano fight it is usually in large, obvious movements, not intermingled spots. IME these spots are similar to ermine marks which also seem to be an indication of a white supressor.

As far as the gelding being frame... I'd highly bet against it. I've seen PLENTY of jagged edges on tobi only horses. This guy does NOT look frame to me.

Oh and I missed the gelding... sabino, tobiano and splash. The blaze looks splash typical to me as does the movement of the leg white.

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[Paxo]

The Gleding:
The spot on his legs look like possible ermine spot, or it could be a hint of possible HZ status. His face just loooks sabino. He looks very typical to me.

His chestnuts are colored, if he was splash that swoop of white woud have whiped that chestnut white and its colored. So that swoop of white is all tobi/sabino to me. Im looking forward to a test for splash, there will I think be alot of dissapointment I think.

There seems to be a new trend to call everything splash and if splash was that common we would see more of the loud expressioned horses and that dosent seem to be the case. For now its just fun to guess . Its all guesses for now besides the obivious ones.
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The stud, I never saw , he looked very similar to filly I figured it was the same horse, very Frame/sabino and proby where she got the splash if its there. No way on tobi for him or her.

[Miss Neigh]

filly looks like a frame and possibly sabino gene hidden in there as well, gelding a pinto those spots are often characteristics of this.

[accphotography]

Well I think there is a theory going around that there can be minimal lines of splash, just like there are minimal lines of everything else. There definitely seems to be a difference in the phenotypes I call splash and the ones I call sabino. Now it is possible what I think is minimal splash is a unique type of sabino... no way to know yet.

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