[Kat]

Ok-
I hope I am not being to vague, but I have a question regarding horse colors.
When my miniature mare comes of age, I am planning to breed her.
I am trying to figure out what color stud to breed her to to get a correctly colored foal. What I mean is how can I exactly find out a rough estimate of what color the foal could be.
My mare is a black roan pinto. Her dam was pure black and her sire was a chestnut pinto. The only thing is that because she has both the appy gene and the pinto gene is it wise not to breed to a pinto or appy gene carrying stud?
I have trouble figuring out all of this genetic stuff and if anyone could help me get some groundwork on the breeding I would appreciate it TONS!
If you have any questions for me or answers, please email me at: Lazypony2002@yahoo.com

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[Blistering Winds]

Here is an excellent site that explains colors and breeding colors.

www.equinecolor.com

Hope it helps...

[spyro1]

That's a tough one, I don't know if you ahve visited my photo gallery (link at the bottom of my posts) but there is a little app mini on there named TJ. My friend Tina owns the mare and colt as well as the sire. Now, the colt is a chestnut with a blanket, the mare is solid black and the sire is get this, a paint, chestnut and white paint. So, where on earth did TJ come from???

[spyro1]

I also know that 80% of the resluting foal comes from the dam, (we are thinking that bella, mom, has appy genes and they over rode the sire's paint gene)so if you were to breed her to a paint, you should have good chances of getting a paint colored baby, also, why do you think that she has appy gene?

[Dawn]

How do you figure that the mare contributes 80% of the colour?

[Sandra-A1]

If it was me I would breed her to a homozygous pinto stallion.
There are pinto homozygous mini stallions and I would be looking at them if it was me.

If your interested in determining what color your horse can produce here is the place to start:
Genetic Color Testing UC Davis

Your only other choice if you want the pinto color pattern is to breed to a stallion that has been tested and found to be pinto homozygous.

Also if your wanting to get the foal registered look into the Pinto Horse Association Of America if your trying to produce a pinto foal.

<small>[ December 10, 2003, 05:45 PM: Message edited by: Sandra-A1 ]</small>

[Kat]

But because she has the appy gene, wont the baby, if bred to a homozygous pinto stallion be a weird color? Once when I was very little, my parents were thinking of breeding our quarterX mare, and because she had the appy gene, we were told not to breed to an appy or pinto. I just cant figure it out. I think I'll ask a good friends who knows a lot about genetics and biology.
Who would have thought it would have been so difficult. I will post back with any info. I find.

THANKS, if you have anymore info, feel free to email me etc,

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[Sandra-A1]

Where is the Appy gene coming from?
If the sire was a Pinto and the dam was a Pinto it's not up close enough or dominate enough to even worry about.
I would go with a homozygous pinto stallion and make sure it IS a stallion that has been tested and certified pinto homozygous!
The Stallion being pinto homozygous means his pinto spotting pattern will be dominate and the resulting foal will have the same pattern!
Unless the mare is an appaloosa or the stallion your breeding to is one I would not worry about it.

<small>[ December 10, 2003, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: Sandra-A1 ]</small>

[Sandra-A1]

If your Pinto Mini mare has some spots in the white sections of her tobiano pattern that is not because there is an Appaloosa in the back ground...some pintos have them and it is a sign that the horse might be homozygous for the pinto pattern gene.
Are those the kind of spots you are talking about?
Let me see if I can find a photo of them online...

<small>[ December 10, 2003, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: Sandra-A1 ]</small>

[Sandra-A1]

Ok let's see if this works... Mini Stallions
Now when the page comes up scroll down to the Mini Stallion named: Bepettons Sirs Majestic
Are those the sort of spots you are talking about?
If so those are normal and do not mean the horse has a Appaloosa gene...like I said before some tobiano patterned horses have them and when the owners see them they are excited because that is a sign the horse might be homozygous for the pinto gene...if I see those I am having my horse tested because if the horse is pinto homozygous I can breed it to any solid colored horse and still get pinto color!