[Seein'Spots]

what a cutie.. I love his color ( whatever it is )lol

you'd probably have tons of responses if you put this in the breeding section..

[RiddleMeThis]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyJumper

You could get:

One copy of black and one copy of red = Heterozygous Black

Or

One copy of black and one copy of cream = Smoky Black

http://www.doubledilute.com/color-chart.htm

No. Pally to homozygous black is always going to be Ee. Then you will add cream 50% of the time.

[HeavenlyJumper]

Originally Posted by RiddleMeThis

No. Pally to homozygous black is always going to be Ee. Then you will add cream 50% of the time.

Oh. I see! I was using the cream modifier instead of the homozygous red...duh.

My mistake!

(Pally IS two copies of red, with one cream modifier, correct?)

[RiddleMeThis]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyJumper

Oh. I see! I was using the cream modifier instead of the homozygous red...duh.

My mistake!

Thats ok we all make them.

(Pally IS two copies of red, with one cream modifier, correct?)

Yep Yep

[taliacristianna]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyJumper

Believe it or not, THIS horse is actually a genetic palomino! No matter how dark he looks

I think that he is actually a chestnut.


MERWIN ALL A BREEZE (Mr. Breezy Cobra X Merwin's Adonna), 1976 black chestnut stallion (deceased). This horse shows the darkest shade of chestnut- so dark it could be mistaken for black. A close examination of the hair around the fetlocks would reveal a few reddish or silver hairs, a clue that this is not a black horse. All chestnut foals are born some shade of red, and it is only after they shed the foal coat that their true shade of chestnut begins to become apparent. Photo courtesy of Sandra Nichols.

To further illustrate your point though, this girl has been DNA typed as a palomino!

[Berlunz]

I am not a color breeder and know nothing about breeding colors except for the very basic stuff. If I saw that baby I would think red dun. Anyone who knows genetics etc might say different because they know something I dont. So right now, to me it looks red dun.

[Simply Savvy]

Do you have pictures of the sire and dam? That might help.

If the sire is a cremello the foal has to have one cream gene.

[gardenmum]

Obviously, waiting for her to shed out will give you the answer, but I wouldn't be surprised if she sheds out buckskin. With her hooves so dark and her legs look like they have that "grayish" tone to them. Could be a choc. pali but my thoughts on looking at her is buckskin. I would not say dun though, she should have a stripe if she were and there doesn't seem to be any indication of a stripe.

[HeavenlyJumper]

Originally Posted by taliacristianna

I think that he is actually a chestnut.

OMG am I seriously that silly today? I was thinking palomino because of the OP's post....

I meant to type chestnut...

Oh well.

[cminor]

I thought when you breed to a cremello you can only get buckskin or palomino. Is that wrong? If it is right would it not mean the foal is palomino.