[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by Terbear2008

Im waiting for her to call me back to tell me if she can come out or not
I called my sis in law she says hes eating out in the field

NO FOOD. Just because he wants to eat, feels like eating, does not mean that he is fine. He may be colicing because of an impaction. Adding more food to a potential block is not a good idea. Just because he's pooping doesn't mean there's no impaction - it takes about 24 hours for food to get out the back door, so there can be a lot of poop already on its way out, past the impaction.

Originally Posted by Terbear2008

UGH..***..She says shes basically to busy to come out the vet tech but the vet told her it was ok to give me the banimine to give to him i can get someone to do this injection

If the tech is coming MAKE her give it in the vein. Yes, you CAN give it in the muscle, but you risk a clostridial infection. If she's coming, she needs to give it IV.

Originally Posted by Terbear2008

K this has where my quick research has taken me Normal is
temp 101.5 f,38 c,
Heart rate 40 per min if over 60 something is wrong. taken by putting finger over the artery along the bottom edge of the lower jaw
Resp rate 8-16 per min

good - now go see what your horse is doing

Originally Posted by WashingtonBay

I agree, it's a good sign that he wants to graze, and pooping is also a good sign.

Not necessarily, see above

Originally Posted by Terbear2008

You guys are right.. no more pissin around making calls.

Oh good Let us know what happens - when you can, don't be here if you need to be with your horse

[MI Racer]

Thank you. I could see using Pepto or baking soda for ulcers, but have never heard of using it for colic

Originally Posted by AllAroundRdr

Pepto coats the stomach and helps decrease diarrhea -- it's certainly not something I'd use for colic as it does not relax the muscles nor diminish pain. I do keep both Pepto & Absorbine's Pro CMC liquid on hand for the runs and extreme 'gas-i-ness'

[WashingtonBay]

As a matter of clarification, I said it's a good sign that the horse is pooping and wants to eat. It's a bad sign if they don't. That doesn't mean they should eat.

After the horse has been assessed and treated, my vet has recommended letting them graze, that sometimes stimulates the system to start working again. But that's after they've been assessed and we know there's no impaction.

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by MI Racer

Thank you. I could see using Pepto or baking soda for ulcers, but have never heard of using it for colic

In cases where the colic is related to ulcers, the pepto is useful. In cases where it's a gas colic, the baking soda becomes useful Knowing which of those, if either, is the cause, now that's another matter

Originally Posted by WashingtonBay

As a matter of clarification, I said it's a good sign that the horse is pooping and wants to eat. It's a bad sign if they don't. That doesn't mean they should eat.

Agreed

After the horse has been assessed and treated, my vet has recommended letting them graze, that sometimes stimulates the system to start working again. But that's after they've been assessed and we know there's no impaction.

Agreed here too The benefit of grass is that it's largely water, and every little bit helps. Plus, grass is full of natural probiotics.

[Mare]

If you cant do an Injection they do have banamine paste

[Kicks]

Liquid Banamine can be mixed with a bit of Karo/molassas to make it 'stickier' (more like a paste) and given orally.

[Ryle]

The problem is that when you are dealing with a colic you don't have good gut function so you may very well not have good uptake of the drug. It's better to go ahead and give it IM or IV in this sort of situation. The risk is higher IM, but if you are weighing the risk of uncommon side effect from IM injection to the much higher risk of problem if you don't treat a colic treating the colic wins.

[AintNoSaint]

I worry a lot about the horse smelling bad, or "funny," becaue of the fact that this horse may have had a rough night and ruptured and is now just sitting there in the "relief" stage of the rupture, as I have known some horses to do for a few days even. They look depressed but don't show signs of distress, or violent colic pain. Sometimes owners think the horse is looking better, when its really the opposite. I hope that a vet can get to that horse ASAP, and that it is not as serious as I'm afraid of.

[Kicks]

Originally Posted by Ryle

The problem is that when you are dealing with a colic you don't have good gut function so you may very well not have good uptake of the drug. It's better to go ahead and give it IM or IV in this sort of situation. The risk is higher IM, but if you are weighing the risk of uncommon side effect from IM injection to the much higher risk of problem if you don't treat a colic treating the colic wins.

HMM - my Vet has said absolutely not to give it IM. She's the one who said to mix liquid with Karo/molassas and give orally IF you can't do IV.

[WashingtonBay]

How to give banamine in the event your vet can't be there to do it is something about which good people are going to disagree. Every choice carries risk, and opinion about those risks versus benefit will be based on experiences and attitudes.

We just have to weigh the opinions and decide as best we can at the time.