Choked, AGAIN

littlecelticpony · 05-19-2004, 09:57 AM

Man this is making me a little wary!

Kayle's GF, the TWH mare, choked AGAIN two days ago. ::sigh:: makes me nervous to feed her. She choked like a week ago, and she's choked a few times in the past.
Man...now I'm worried for Kayle! I mix their food VERY well, and she still choked! Even with the old rock in the feed tub.
:-(

spyro1 · 05-19-2004, 10:03 AM

Oh man, I do know how you feel, choke is very scary. Do you wet her feed down at all?? That is what we do wiht our Katie Pony. We have her on Equine Senior, it says right on the bag that it is formulated for horse's who experience choke. We also put her on alfalfa cubes, and soak those. we have since started giving her a handful of orchard grass hay, because it is not course at all, and we soak that as well. I don't wnat her to have to go through choke again!! How old is this mare? I do know the vet told me that as horses get older, they stop producing as much saliva as needed to help the grain/hay go down.

Cheryl Kirby · 05-19-2004, 10:04 AM

What do you do when they choke?

I should probably know this in case it happens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek!:

Blistering Winds · 05-19-2004, 10:09 AM

Call the vet and remove all teh rest of the feed.

As for this repeat offender (sorry, been watching court shows all day)....has a vet done a full check on her to make sure there isn't any deformities? The only time I've ever seen a serious choke is one with problems with their flaps that they need surgery. Or their esophagus isn't working, usually in very old horses. Gotta basically give them liquid feed practically to prevent it if that is the case.

spyro1 · 05-19-2004, 10:09 AM

Call your vet out ASAP if you suspect that a horse is suffering choke. Choke is basically a blockage of grain/hay that accumulates in the esophagus, making it impossible for the horse to swallow. The mucus will start coming out of the nose, lots of mucous/saliva out of the mouth. If left untreated, the horse can get a buildup of fluids in the lungs, (from the mucous/saliva traveling down the windpipe) leading to UR probs and pnuemonia.

littlecelticpony · 05-19-2004, 11:01 AM

what's SO funny is that every single time she's choked, it's been on EQUINE SENIOR!
Her owner also had a horse DIE from choking on Equine Senior.

i'm making her food into a gruel, now.

good idea to check for deformities. i'll tell her owner that.

Blistering Winds · 05-19-2004, 02:11 PM

Hmmm....she had another horse die on senior? Something sounds funny. I"ve always heard on choke horses, you FEED equine senior wetted down.

Definitly have them checked.

::Miss Kitty:: · 05-19-2004, 02:18 PM

We soak all of our horses grain to help prevent choke. If it happens again, take the rest of the grain away and massage the throat area, i've been told that helps break it up. The vet will usually stick a hose down to clear it (sounds horrible) We had a horse choke on her grain and I massaged her throat until it broke up.

PawNHoofPrints · 05-19-2004, 06:39 PM

You may consider having your vet scope her esophagus to look at her tissue to determine if there is a reason for her to choke so frequently. You may also have her teeth examined/floated to see if she is unable to chew her food appropriately.

Just as an aside, you should never feed beet pulp to horse that it is prone to choke.

littlecelticpony · 05-20-2004, 08:17 AM

yeah i forgot to tell her owner about scoping her the other day. i'll talk to her tonight.

had the teeth done and examined, no probs there. she's not a food bolter, so i bet you guys are right on about abnormalities in the esoph.

yeah the horse that died from choke was a young, healthy Arab. what actually happened was that...this is so sad, she called the vet, it happened at like....7PM ok? it's a three doctor practice, the one on call wasn't one that i use OR reccomend, even before this. so she called, told the doc what was happening, and he told her that he'd be OK overnight....!.....so this poor horse sits overnight with a wad of Equine Senior stuck in there. we're pretty sure he aspirated some, because when the other (read good) vet came out the next morning, Jake was in pretty BAD shape. long story short, tubed him anyways, but he ended up with pnuemonia. so i mean, i say that he died from choke when he really died from negligence, if you ask me.
btw, if it had been me, there is NO way i would have settled for "wait overnight" when my horse has saliva and food slinging out of his nostrils.

05-19-2004, 09:57 AM	#1
littlecelticpony Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Divide my time between NJ, NY, and CO. Posts: 3,984 Images: 72	Choked, AGAIN Man this is making me a little wary! Kayle's GF, the TWH mare, choked AGAIN two days ago. ::sigh:: makes me nervous to feed her. She choked like a week ago, and she's choked a few times in the past. Man...now I'm worried for Kayle! I mix their food VERY well, and she still choked! Even with the old rock in the feed tub. :-( __________________ The one and only LCP When all is lost...all is left to gain. Do not go gentle into that good night...

05-19-2004, 10:03 AM	#2
spyro1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Swamp..Home of The SEC Champs~Go Gators Posts: 6,881 Images: 62 Blog Entries: 21	Oh man, I do know how you feel, choke is very scary. Do you wet her feed down at all?? That is what we do wiht our Katie Pony. We have her on Equine Senior, it says right on the bag that it is formulated for horse's who experience choke. We also put her on alfalfa cubes, and soak those. we have since started giving her a handful of orchard grass hay, because it is not course at all, and we soak that as well. I don't wnat her to have to go through choke again!! How old is this mare? I do know the vet told me that as horses get older, they stop producing as much saliva as needed to help the grain/hay go down. __________________ I used to have a handle on life, but it broke off. Do unto others......

05-19-2004, 10:09 AM	#4
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,850 Images: 822 Blog Entries: 16	Call the vet and remove all teh rest of the feed. As for this repeat offender (sorry, been watching court shows all day)....has a vet done a full check on her to make sure there isn't any deformities? The only time I've ever seen a serious choke is one with problems with their flaps that they need surgery. Or their esophagus isn't working, usually in very old horses. Gotta basically give them liquid feed practically to prevent it if that is the case. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

05-19-2004, 10:09 AM	#5
spyro1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Swamp..Home of The SEC Champs~Go Gators Posts: 6,881 Images: 62 Blog Entries: 21	Call your vet out ASAP if you suspect that a horse is suffering choke. Choke is basically a blockage of grain/hay that accumulates in the esophagus, making it impossible for the horse to swallow. The mucus will start coming out of the nose, lots of mucous/saliva out of the mouth. If left untreated, the horse can get a buildup of fluids in the lungs, (from the mucous/saliva traveling down the windpipe) leading to UR probs and pnuemonia. __________________ I used to have a handle on life, but it broke off. Do unto others......

05-19-2004, 11:01 AM	#6
littlecelticpony Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Divide my time between NJ, NY, and CO. Posts: 3,984 Images: 72	what's SO funny is that every single time she's choked, it's been on EQUINE SENIOR! Her owner also had a horse DIE from choking on Equine Senior. i'm making her food into a gruel, now. good idea to check for deformities. i'll tell her owner that. __________________ The one and only LCP When all is lost...all is left to gain. Do not go gentle into that good night...

05-19-2004, 10:04 AM	#3
Cheryl Kirby Full Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC Posts: 191	What do you do when they choke? I should probably know this in case it happens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek!:

05-19-2004, 02:11 PM	#7
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,850 Images: 822 Blog Entries: 16	Hmmm....she had another horse die on senior? Something sounds funny. I"ve always heard on choke horses, you FEED equine senior wetted down. Definitly have them checked. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

05-19-2004, 02:18 PM	#8
::Miss Kitty:: Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: (}~~{)Canada(}~~{) Posts: 2,307 Images: 5	We soak all of our horses grain to help prevent choke. If it happens again, take the rest of the grain away and massage the throat area, i've been told that helps break it up. The vet will usually stick a hose down to clear it (sounds horrible) We had a horse choke on her grain and I massaged her throat until it broke up.

05-19-2004, 06:39 PM	#9
PawNHoofPrints Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: USA Posts: 762	Scoping You may consider having your vet scope her esophagus to look at her tissue to determine if there is a reason for her to choke so frequently. You may also have her teeth examined/floated to see if she is unable to chew her food appropriately. Just as an aside, you should never feed beet pulp to horse that it is prone to choke.

05-20-2004, 08:17 AM	#10
littlecelticpony Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Divide my time between NJ, NY, and CO. Posts: 3,984 Images: 72	yeah i forgot to tell her owner about scoping her the other day. i'll talk to her tonight. had the teeth done and examined, no probs there. she's not a food bolter, so i bet you guys are right on about abnormalities in the esoph. yeah the horse that died from choke was a young, healthy Arab. what actually happened was that...this is so sad, she called the vet, it happened at like....7PM ok? it's a three doctor practice, the one on call wasn't one that i use OR reccomend, even before this. so she called, told the doc what was happening, and he told her that he'd be OK overnight....!.....so this poor horse sits overnight with a wad of Equine Senior stuck in there. we're pretty sure he aspirated some, because when the other (read good) vet came out the next morning, Jake was in pretty BAD shape. long story short, tubed him anyways, but he ended up with pnuemonia. so i mean, i say that he died from choke when he really died from negligence, if you ask me. btw, if it had been me, there is NO way i would have settled for "wait overnight" when my horse has saliva and food slinging out of his nostrils. __________________ The one and only LCP When all is lost...all is left to gain. Do not go gentle into that good night...