[QCTrailrider]

Okay so I rescued this beautiful TB, 4 y/o mare (Here I go again with a new rescue!). The guy who gave her to me said the breeder would not give up the papers to him, and he said it's because the guy is an old grumpy codger. I have a bill of sale, the mare has no tattoo but I have her registered name. My question is this: is there any way I can get a copy of the papers from the Jockey Club since she is mine now? How do people go about getting papers on horses they get at auction? Is it strictly a tattoo related thing?

I want to breed her eventually, and I really want the papers for when I do.

[Shannon]

If she is 4 the JC probably has DNA on file. I would just shoot them an email and see what they can do

[QCTrailrider]

Awesome! I will try that and see what happens.

[Shannon]

Good luck! She's a lovely mare, and you certainly deserve those papers

BTW, if she's an 06 model, then she's only 3...Better chance of having DNA!

[QCTrailrider]

Here's what I found on the JC website:

DUPLICATE CERTIFICATE OF FOAL REGISTRATION

• A. If a Certificate of Foal Registration has been lost or destroyed, a Duplicate Certificate of Foal Registration may be issued by the Registry Office upon submission of the following:
  • 1. A check or money order payable to The Jockey Club covering the prescribed fee (see Fee Schedule);
  • 2. A set of four color photographs of the horse (front, both sides, and rear views) clearly showing the color and the markings (or lack of markings) on the head, legs and body;
  • 3. A completed and signed Duplicate Certificate Form containing the written description of the markings on the horse, including the exact location of the head and neck cowlicks;
  • 4. A notarized statement from the owner or his authorized agent describing the circumstances under which the Certificate of Foal Registration was lost or destroyed;
  • 5. Proof of ownership of that specific horse (for example, a bill of sale or cancelled check including the name or pedigree of the horse, date of sale and the name of the new owner); and
  • 6. Any further evidence and assurances as The Jockey Club may require, such as genetic typing and/or parentage verification.
• B. Except as expressly provided in this Rule 9, a Duplicate Certificate of Foal Registration will not be issued as long as the Certificate of Foal Registration is known to be in existence; provided however, in the event of a sheriff's (or similar) sale or under a non-appealable Court Order, a Duplicate Certificate of Foal Registration will be issued if the original Certificate of Foal Registration cannot be obtained from the previous owner only after a good faith effort to recover it is made by the seller and/or the new owner. In either case, the requirements of Rule 9(A) 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 must be met and an opinion must be submitted to The Jockey Club from an attorney or an official representative of the court, indicating that the sale (if applicable) was conducted in accordance with the laws of the state and providing such other information as The Jockey Club may request regarding the circumstances and validity of the sale or Court Order.
• C. Once a Duplicate Certificate of Foal Registration is issued, the original Certificate of Foal Registration becomes null and void, and if located, must be returned to the Registry Office.

[Shannon]

Hmmm. The guy you got her from might be able to write you something saying the papers could not be acquired, but since the mare is still in the breeder's name I don't think that would work. Is there any way YOU can contact the breeder?

[QCTrailrider]

He said he would give me the guy's number, and said maybe I could sweet talk him into giving me the papers. I'm really not much of a sweet talker!