Camelot horses to be euthanized and asking for donations for euthanasia....

[RobinL]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/camelo...73535549336129

[draftlover]

Sorry, but I think this is just a cry for money. A horse hasn't gone to slaughter from Camelot in many years.

From reading the posts at the link provided, it's obvious that there are a lot of people offering to help.

[mygirl1197]

Supposedly 3 horses in the #10 pen this week are scheduled to be euthanized...by bullet... because Frank determined that they were either too injured or too dangerous to let someone purchase. Money...$1300.00 has been raised to make sure the horses are euthanized rather then just being shipped off to slaughter. The $1300 basically pays Frank for the horses and covers rendering...whatever that means. Several people have come forward and offered to take the horses...including a vet... but for some reason...Frank wants them destroyed.

The whole story was posted on the Camelot Weekly page, but the page seems to have been deactivated. Does anyone know what happened to the Camelot Weekly FB page?

[draftlover]

This is from their FB page

EUTHANASIA ANNOUNCEMENT:

Our mission here has always been to keep horses from going to slaughter and facing the horrific conditions that slaughter entails. We are prepared to do whatever is necessary to carry out that mission. It has come to our attention that there are three horses that need our help. They are not sound for selling and Camelot is not comfortable selling them back out. They are numbers 582, 657 and 658.


Over the course of this week, as the horses' conditions became evident, they were removed from the available list shared with us and Camelot continued to monitor them to see if they were salvageable. This was their final decision based on their observations and they advised us regarding these horses today.


They advised us of the situation to offer us the opportunity to humanely euthanize them, as an alternative to selling them to be bunched/shipped. While our descriptions reflect what we had seen on Wednesday night, the descriptions are just a snapshot of information. Camelot has handled and observed them over the past few days, and they feel that it is NOT in anyone's best interest to pass them on.


We know this seems shocking, but this effort will ensure a humane passing for these horses and keep them from entering the slaughter pipeline. Euthanization is better than the alternative.


Helping Hearts Equine Rescue has offered to collect the euthanasia funds through their 501(c)3 account. Our goal is $1375. Please specify "euth. fund" and the paypal is hheartsequine@optonline.net. Any funds that aren't used will be refunded. If you cannot donate, please share our efforts on your page.

Edited to Answer the First Question: Why So Much to Euth. 3 horses?
Because we DO have to cover the cost of the horses, plus euth/rendering. If they were to be bunched/shipped, the prices paid for them by Camelot would be recovered that way. Since they are offering us the chance to have them euth, the costs have to be recovered THIS way.

The Conditions:
#582 -- The Red Dun -- As we posted in our description, while he was tacked up, he would not allow a rider to get on Weds. night. When they tried to ride him the day afterwards he was "broncy". When he was approached by the vet on Weds., he knocked her into the wall hard enough to knock her to the ground. He's just not safe.

#657 -- This mare's knee is jusat demolished. She'll never be sound enough to even be a loved pasture-puff.

#658 - The black arab. As reported, we heard from sources that his ankles had some bone-chips, that is an understatement. Sadly, he's not sound, AND additionally he's been dangerous to handle -- whether from extreme discomfort or attitude, he's been "broncy" in-hand and has acted aggresively, dragging men around on two separate occasions. Another one that they just don't feel is safe enough to release to the general public.


The Method:
The method of euthanasia will be a bullet. This is a method approved by the veterinary association. Firstly, many people, including the Carpers do not agree with chemical euthanasia, they've seen too much go wrong over the years. We realize that the same can be said of a bullet, but what also needed to be taken into consideration was the cost of chemical euthanasia, togeether with the increased cost of removing the remains. Horses euth'd with a bullet can be rendered while a chemical-laden remains must be landfilled/composted. All of that would have added an additional $900 to the cost of euthanizing these 3 animals.

If that if objectionable, as we stated in the original announcement, donations will be refunded and we will tell the Carpers that the majority rule on the page has decreed that the horses not be euthanized. At that point the animals will be disposed of alternately by the Carpers. We already have been told multliple times that selling them to the public is not an option. Accordingly, the method of disposal would most likely be bunching and shipping, which is what we had hoped to avoid by bringing this to you.

[manesntails]

Bullets for 1300 horses don't cost 1300 bucks. Sad how people are duped.

[lucky_pine]

Of course the BULLETS won't cost $1300. It's the rendering afterwards. They can't shoot them and just leave them lay, or bury them. States have specific laws that one must follow to dispose of a body.

Who are we to question Frank's decision? We aren't there, we don't know the exact condition of the horses nor have we been around them. If he says it's in their best interest to shoot them, then shoot them. How would you feel if you had an extremely dangerous horse (as at least one was described to be) and you decided to do him and everyone else a favor and just put him down? Then someone steps up and says "Hey, I'll take him" and you go against your gut instinct, give the horse away, then someone gets hurt? Seems to me like he is just covering his backside.

Can't keep everyone happy, obviously.

[manesntails]

Of course the BULLETS won't cost $1300. It's the rendering afterwards. They can't shoot them and just leave them lay, or bury them. States have specific laws that one must follow to dispose of a body.

Who are we to question Frank's decision? We aren't there, we don't know the exact condition of the horses nor have we been around them. If he says it's in their best interest to shoot them, then shoot them. How would you feel if you had an extremely dangerous horse (as at least one was described to be) and you decided to do him and everyone else a favor and just put him down? Then someone steps up and says "Hey, I'll take him" and you go against your gut instinct, give the horse away, then someone gets hurt? Seems to me like he is just covering his backside.

Can't keep everyone happy, obviously.

It would save a lot of deserving horses, that 1300 bucks would. It's a shame to take horses who aren't worth anything and claim they are worth shooting but don't deserve to go to slaughter. The dangerous ones are EXACTLY the ones who should go to slaughter. I can see euthing the extremely lame ones but not when he's literally selling them for what he paid for them. He should have let them alone since they EVIDENTLY WERE LAME and not likely to be useful. But that's just my opinon. I'm not of the school that thinks horses are Majikal being that we must worship because they "helped found this country". Heck, cows did as much, if not more and thankfully, we aren't worshipping THEM YET.

[lucky_pine]

And I am? I don't worship horses anymore than any other guy. I'm 100% pro slaughter.

But dear lord, there are probably more anti slaughter people on Frank's butt than any other type of person out there. He lets these 3 slip into the hands of slaughter and it will be even more uproar than there is now. So if the anti slaughter people want to pony up for once in their lives and PAY to have these horses euthanised instead of slaughtered, then let Frank ask.

[Shoney]

I would so much rather they die by the bullet of a gun than by the horror of the slaughterhouse.
Honestly, I think many of the horses that do not have homes and that are suffering need to be taken and not hurt and neglected anymore. If that means by a bullet, then so be it. But not by the hand of a slaughterhouse.

[Manahmanah]

Some people are not comfortable with the slaughter process and would rather see the horses bought and put down than go through the hauling process. I dont understand why anyone would have a problem with this. Frank has seen lots and lots of horses and is under constant scrutiny from just about everyone under the sun. If he says they are not to be resold i trust in his judgement.