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Old 05-15-2009, 04:11 PM   #21
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Best you get is like I do- twice a year, wait for the rep to come to the semi- annual horse clinic, and grill said rep for the numbers, lol!

Great thread, Spinnaker- it's got my vote for a sticky, too!
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:27 AM   #22
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Feed Calculators!

Hundreds of forage types.

http://www.agric.nsw.gov.au/tools/fe...ary&warnflag=f


Horse Weight Calculators
http://www.gaitedhorses.net/Articles/horseweight.html


Feed and Calorie Calculator by Purina
http://horse.purinamills.com/product...calculator.asp

Grazing Management by USDA
http://www.mi.nrcs.usda.gov/technical/grazing.html

Forages for Horses an Overview
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/asc/asc120/asc120.pdf

Choosing a Hay
http://www.uky.edu/Ag/AnimalSciences...pdfs/id146.pdf

Alfalfa for Horses (detailed)
http://www.alfalfa.org/pdf/Alfalfa%2...low%20res).pdf

Timothy for Horses
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/agr/agr84/agr84.htm

Bermudagrass
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/agr/agr48/agr48.pdf

Orchard Grass
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/agr/agr58/agr58.htm

Tall Fescue
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/agr/agr59/AGR59.PDF

Forage Identification Guides for over 20 different legumes and grasses
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/agr/agr175/agr175.htm

Rotational Grazing
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/id/id143/id143.pdf

Weed Management
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/agr/agr172/agr172.pdf

Understanding Forage Quality Analyses
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/id/id101/id101.htm

Detailed overview on the factors that affect Forage Quality
http://www.uky.edu/Ag/Forage/ForageQuality.pdf

Soil Testing
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/agr/agr57/agr57.pdf
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i just wanted to say thsi was super helpfull! thanks
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Thanks for this useful list Spinnaker and thanks for all the great links LateralFlexion!
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Old 07-27-2009, 05:57 PM   #25
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and if all else fails - try these guys: www.equi-analytical.com
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:29 AM   #26
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Let me just add the following NSC% information.

Maker : Product........................................... .............................. NSC
BOSS (Black oil sunflower seeds) .................................................. 5.60%
POULIN: Carb Safe.................................................. ....................10%
TRIPLE CROWN:Safe Starch Forage................................................10 %
BLUE SEAL: Carb Guard............................................. ...................11%
LMFLMF: Low Carb Complete Stage............................................. ...11%
BUCKEYE NUTRITION: Safe n’ Easy Pelleted......................................12.5 0%
PROGRESSIVE PRODUCTS: ProAdvantage grass formula (ration balancer) - 13%
SEMINOLE: Happy Hoof .................................................. ..............15%
TRIPLE CROWN: Low Starch.................................................. .........15.00%
TRIPLE CROWN: Senior - .................................................. .............15.70%
TRIPLE CROWN: Lite - .................................................. .................15.90%
BUCKEYE NUTRITION: Safe n’ Easy Textured - ...................................16%
PURINA: Horse Chow 100 - .................................................. ...........16%
PURINA: Nature Essentials (Mare & Main) supplement - ........................16%
PURINA: Nature Essentials Born to Win - ............................................16%
FARNAM: Platform Senior - .................................................. ............16.10%
POULIN: Stablemate 14 complete - .................................................. .16.30%
NUTRENA: Lite Balance - .................................................. ...............17.10%
POULIN: MVP - .................................................. ............................17.40%
PURINA: Horse Chow 200 - .................................................. ............18%
PROGRESSIVE PRODUCTS: Lo-carb - .................................................. 19%
PURINA: REVOLUTION Feed - .................................................. ..........19%
TRIPLE CROWN: Growth - .................................................. ...............19.80%
BLUE SEAL: Vintage Senior - .................................................. ...........20%
PURINA: Equine Adult - .................................................. ..................20%
FARNAM: Platform Mini & Pony - .................................................. ......20.50%
TRIPLE CROWN: Complete .................................................. ..............21.70%
PROGRESSIVE PRODUCTS: Senior pelleted - .........................................22%
PURINA: Equine Sr - .................................................. ......................22%
NUTRENA: SafeChoice - .................................................. .................22.80%
PURINA: Complete Advantage - .................................................. .......22.90%
PURINA: Equine Jr - .................................................. .......................23%
PROGRESSIVE PRODUCTS: Senior Textured - ........................................24%
BLUE SEAL: Trotter - .................................................. .....................25%
BLUE SEAL: Demand - .................................................. ....................26%
PURINA: Strategy - .................................................. .......................28%
TRIPLE CROWN:12% - .................................................. ....................29.70%
BLUE SEAL: Vintage Racer - .................................................. ............30%
LMFLMF: Senior - .................................................. ..........................30%
POULIN: Senior - .................................................. ...........................31.30%
BLUE SEAL: Vintage Gold - .................................................. ..............32%
BLUE SEAL: Vintage Mare Foal - .................................................. .......33%
BLUE SEAL: Hunter - .................................................. ......................33%
POULIN: Endure 10:12 - .................................................. .................33.70%
POULIN: Endure 10:8 - .................................................. ...................33.90%
BLUE SEAL: Contender - .................................................. .................34%
BLUE SEAL: Vintage Sweet - .................................................. ............35%
BLUE SEAL: Vintage Victory - .................................................. ...........36%
TRIPLE CROWN: 14% performance - .................................................. ...38.20%
BLUE SEAL: Charger - .................................................. ......................39%
BLUE SEAL: Sport 40% - .................................................. ..................40%
PURINA: Omelene 100 - .................................................. ...................40.50%
TRIPLE CROWN: 10% performance - .................................................. ....41.50%
BLUE SEAL: Strider - .................................................. ........................42%
BLUE SEAL: Rider - .................................................. ...........................44%
BLUE SEAL: Horse 10 - .................................................. ......................45%
BLUE SEAL: Pacer - .................................................. ..........................48%
Just thought i would update the Triple Crown Carbohydrate levels.

the above is an older analysis of the Triple Crown feeds.

some of there feeds are MUCH lower now than what is mentioned above ( And tested by Equi-analytical). i feed the LITE and it is only 9.3% NSC and 9.5 % starch +ESC.

Triple Crown safe starch forage is: 9% NSC and 6.1% starch + ESC

Senior is: 11.7% NSC and 13.2 % Starch +ESC

Triple Crown Low Starch is : 16% starch + ESC and 13.5 % NSC

to name a few off the list.

*Values determined by Equi-Analytical Laboratories, Ithaca, NY, reported on as sampled or as fed basis. WSC is water soluble carbohydrates, ESC is ethanol soluble carbohydrates, NSC is nonstructural carbohydrates and NSC = Starch + WSC. Select horse feeds and forage with low Starch + ESC values for horses to prevent laminitis, tying up disease (EPSM, PSSM, RER), prevention of Developmental Orthopedic Disease (DOD), calmer behavior and reduced insulin resistance for Equine Metabolic Syndrome and Equine Cushing's Disease. Also, forages with high NSC values (fructans) are more likely to cause laminitis. All feeds have fixed-ingredient formulas so carbohydrate values remain constant

copy and paste of the table didn't work so i had to put the website link up.


http://www.triplecrownfeed.com/news-...ate-levels.php
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:37 AM   #27
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NSCs are impossible to compare to other feeds. There is no regulated formula to come up with the numbers. You can't compare to other brands because each brand has their own equation. The numbers will also change every time it's done for the same feed.

Blue Seal is also changing a few of their formulas. They are adding a new line with higher protein, fat and fiber. One will also have MSM, glucosamine and chondrotin in it.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:26 PM   #28
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Can you add seminole's equalizer to it?
It is 1,500 cal/lb

I had emailed them asking so can someone post it?
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