[Horsegal9412]

I don't know what your situation is with area but if you have a round pin or something like that you could try some of Monty Robert's Join up before and after you saddle him up. I have a four year old QH reiner/WP bred (I didn't breed him but its a weird combo to me haha) that started bucking me off at the canter and once at the trot then we started using Join Up and lounging til you can feel the heat in between the legs and I haven't had a try out of him since and its been 2 or 3 mouths. Hope this helps

[myhorsethunder6]

Originally Posted by meljean

A lot of times, you will have a young/green horse that will do things like this, after several times of being ridden. They have gotten over their initial fear of unknown, and have gotten comfortable enough to try themselves.

And it could be a pain issue somewhere? Only gives problems under weight, sprung rib, cracked bone, etc.

And this horse could just be tougher. And may be harder to get along with and train for that reason. Did not mention how bred, but some bloodlines in some breeds are hotter/harder to deal with.

What kind of feed is he getting? Maybe change it, and see if helps.

One thing you shouldn't do it to try to keep riding him. A broken bone is no fun.

Well, i dont really know what it is. He is always ok for, i dont know, around 6 -7 rides just walking, then he goes nuts. He is half arab and half app nothing special. He doesnt get any grain at all.

Originally Posted by seaecho

You don't mention the kind of bit you were using. I'm sure you know a mild bit should be used on a green horse. French link snaffle seems to be very agreeable to a lot of horses. If you are using a curb bit, or something else harsher than a French link, its possible the horse is objecting to the pain that is caused him when you put pressure on the reins. And this in turn panics him.

Yes i do know not to use a harsh bit on a greenie. Unless i'm showing, which i dont do often in western pleasure, i never use anything harsher than a snaffle, or a hack, and Spirit was always worked with in a simple D ring snaffle.

Originally Posted by Horsegal9412

I don't know what your situation is with area but if you have a round pin or something like that you could try some of Monty Robert's Join up before and after you saddle him up. I have a four year old QH reiner/WP bred (I didn't breed him but its a weird combo to me haha) that started bucking me off at the canter and once at the trot then we started using Join Up and lounging til you can feel the heat in between the legs and I haven't had a try out of him since and its been 2 or 3 mouths. Hope this helps

He was round penned from the very beginning. He is easy to join up with, and he walks, trots, canters, and whoas on command. He will follow me around like a puppy afterwards and does all his ground work, monkeying with the saddle on the ground, bending his head with the bit, lowering his head, backing and all of that PERFECTLY If only he was this good in the saddle

Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions. The owners will no longer let me do any work with the horse () so i guess he is just a pasture pet now because they think he is dangerous and untrainable (which i disagree with, but i have no choice) Oh well

Britt