[buggywhipp]

Ok so I finally found somewhere that carries a ration balancer. I looked for the TC 30% Supplement first but couldn't find anyone who carried it or even knew what it was.

I did however find someone who carries Buckeye Grow N Win. Here is a link to it Buckeye Nutrition: Horse Feeds: Buckeye Gro'N Win®

Now I need some help as what I should add with it if anything. I will be feeding 2 different horses.

1. Limoges-growing yearling warmblood. Right now he is on free choice grass hay but later will be going to 24/7 turnout on good pasture. So right now will I need to add anything with the Gro N Win?

2. Charlie-7 yr old mare who seems to stay fat (not too fat) on air. Right now she is getting no hay and just a handful or 2 of beet pulp to mix in a vit. supplement. She is on full turnout in good pasture. Will just the Grow N Win be enough for her?

[imacowgirl2]

Not sure exactly what the yearling will need...maybe some extra calories besides the Gro N Win, but the Gro N Win will be fine if he doesnt need extra calories. We use BOSS for extra calories, but there's a number of other things you can use.

Gro N Win should be fine for the mare, especially since she's an easy keeper

[PeggySue]

The mare I have on Gro N Win looks great on just the supplement alone and she gets 1lb daily...

For the yearling I would prob up it to 1.5 lb daily or 2lbs and that should be good unless he is a "hard" keeper...

I would try it alone first .. my mare is doing WONDERFUL on it alone!!

In the other post I posted the values off of both TC 30% adn Gro N Win together...

[CowGirlUp1833]

A lot of our horses are on this at our barn and are doing phenominal! I'll ask our b/o tonight what she usually combines it with....

[buggywhipp]

Originally Posted by PeggySue

The mare I have on Gro N Win looks great on just the supplement alone and she gets 1lb daily...

For the yearling I would prob up it to 1.5 lb daily or 2lbs and that should be good unless he is a "hard" keeper...

I would try it alone first .. my mare is doing WONDERFUL on it alone!!

In the other post I posted the values off of both TC 30% adn Gro N Win together...

I would not consider him a hard keeper. Just growthy (if that makes sense).

Yes I looked at both the TC and the GNW. I was planning on going with the TC 30% but just couldn't find it anywhere. So I will go with the Buckeye GNW instead. I just wasn't sure if I needed to maybe add something for extra fat for my yearling. His current feed (Dynasty JR) I believe is 6% fat so I think it's pretty close to the Buckeye.

[buggywhipp]

Originally Posted by CowGirlUp1833

A lot of our horses are on this at our barn and are doing phenominal! I'll ask our b/o tonight what she usually combines it with....

Thanks Kim that would be great.

[Dawn]

About how much does the yearling weigh?

For an 18 month old at 800 lbs, they recommend 2-3 lbs, which is the minimum you'll need to stick with if he falls into that category.

I would not recommend feeding it with oats, and I'm not really sure why they do. If it is a true 'ration balancer' as they state it is, oats would not be necessary. Although they do state that it is only for use if the horse is dropping body weight, it still doesn't really make a lot of sense so far as that goes.

You're going to need to feed approximately .3-.38 lbs of the Gro N Win per 100 lbs of body weight for hiim. So first thing is to see how much he weighs.

He will most likely need something aside from hay/grass and the ration balancer. What you use really depends on what's available to you though. Alfalfa pellets/cubes, beet pulp, rice bran, and BOSS would all be choices you could work through.

[PeggySue]

I knwo my buckeye dealer said they are forumlated to be feed with oats if you need to add carolries.. but I have not had to but I only hav the one horse on it right now.. getting ready to switch another one..

[Dawn]

Originally Posted by buggywhipp

I would not consider him a hard keeper. Just growthy (if that makes sense).

Yes I looked at both the TC and the GNW. I was planning on going with the TC 30% but just couldn't find it anywhere. So I will go with the Buckeye GNW instead. I just wasn't sure if I needed to maybe add something for extra fat for my yearling. His current feed (Dynasty JR) I believe is 6% fat so I think it's pretty close to the Buckeye.

You can not go by fat percentage. Yes this feed is 5% fat, but you're feeding 2-3 lbs of it. This will supply you with .1-.15 lbs of fat per day. You're other feed, I don't have the instructions on it. But it was likely recommended to be fed in the 8-12 lbs/day range. That would supply anywhere between .48-.6 lbs of fat.

[buggywhipp]

Originally Posted by Dawn

About how much does the yearling weigh?

For an 18 month old at 800 lbs, they recommend 2-3 lbs, which is the minimum you'll need to stick with if he falls into that category.

I would not recommend feeding it with oats, and I'm not really sure why they do. If it is a true 'ration balancer' as they state it is, oats would not be necessary. Although they do state that it is only for use if the horse is dropping body weight, it still doesn't really make a lot of sense so far as that goes.

You're going to need to feed approximately .3-.38 lbs of the Gro N Win per 100 lbs of body weight for hiim. So first thing is to see how much he weighs.

He will most likely need something aside from hay/grass and the ration balancer. What you use really depends on what's available to you though. Alfalfa pellets/cubes, beet pulp, rice bran, and BOSS would all be choices you could work through.

If I had to just guess I'd say around 700-800 lbs. But I will check tonight. I have a weight tape.

As far as what to add with the RB I have many things available here (BOSS, beet pulp, rice bran, alfalfa pellets/cubes). Those things are easy to find.