Bruising from Laminitus?

QHGirl · 08-15-2005, 12:23 PM

OK, I know it happens, and I know that one can be more severe than the other.

How long does it normally take for bruising from Laminitus take to "grow" out?

Skin has alot of bruising on his right front, frog, sole and all, it even was weaping when the farrier was trimming him. His other foot has grown out, but this one is STILL bruised. It is worse this trim than last, so that means it is growing out.. but still waiting for him to get better.

He is still on anti-inflamitory and asprin and minimal turnout. Is there anything that can "help grow it out" or even help surpress the bruising?

I am not going to push him, I know better than that, but I didn't know if anything might help. He is on eggbars and "gel" pads to help support him.

Thanks!

MissBandit · 08-15-2005, 12:24 PM

It takes as long as the hoof takes to grow. Anywhere from 6-12 months. You will find the bruising with each hoof trim until it eventually all grows out.

QHGirl · 08-15-2005, 12:25 PM

That is what I figured... 6-12 months.. I am going to be in my corner crying....

MissBandit · 08-15-2005, 12:26 PM

btw, you cannot suppress the brusing. This damage is showing up from his attack of laminitis, it is not a 'bruise' per say, more of bloody damaged laminae that are growing out.

Cornucrescine is a great product that helps in aiding heathy horn growth.

MissBandit · 08-15-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by QHGirl

That is what I figured... 6-12 months.. I am going to be in my corner crying....

ah it's ok really. That does not indicate lameness, it's just the after effects of the laminitis.

QHGirl · 08-15-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBandit

btw, you cannot suppress the brusing. This damage is showing up from his attack of laminitis, it is not a 'bruise' per say, more of bloody damaged laminae that are growing out.

That would explain alot. I figured it was the tissue damage growing out, but that is a little more hard to explain... but you are correct.

I called my vet to give him an updated, because the "pads" are on and he can't see what the Farrier and I can... he said that explains alot. He basically backed what Jen said.

He said Farriers Formula would be OK, but it is more of a suppliment that I might feel better giving, but nothing will help with that because it is already growing out and the suppliments and such are for NEW growth. Said that I am on the right track... and I said, I guess I have waited 3 years to ride him, I can wait another month or so ...

MissBandit · 08-15-2005, 01:12 PM

Any new growth will help get rid of bruising.
Take a look at this Formula4 Feet, approved by the Laminitis Trust.
http://www.equilife.co.uk/formula4feet.htm

QHGirl · 08-15-2005, 01:18 PM

Looking to see if we carry it in the US.

THANKS!

Sue B · 08-15-2005, 01:34 PM

How long has he been on anti-inflammatories and asprin? In general, anti-inflammatories are no longer recommended past the first couple of weeks. Sometimes banamine is ok in more severe cases. The anti-inflammatories actually slow the healing process in the case of laminitis. The body needs to utilize its own healing devices to spead things along. Inflammation is a sign for the body to send healing agents to the area...when the inflammation is surpressed for longer than a couple of weeks, it hinders the body's ability to help itself.

I have seen horses that have been on anti-inflammatories that were still lame after months or even a year that were almost instantly running pain free when the drugs were slowly reduced and eventually removed.

QHGirl · 08-15-2005, 01:42 PM

My horse is about 1200 lbs... he is a huge muscle stocky boy. He gets one gram asprin am and 1 gram bute in the pm. He has been on them for a while but not that long. We have switched around a few times, this seems like the best situation.

True, and I will bring it up with my vet reguarding the anti-inflammatories... Thank You!

08-15-2005, 12:23 PM	#1
QHGirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7,118 Images: 287	Bruising from Laminitus? OK, I know it happens, and I know that one can be more severe than the other. How long does it normally take for bruising from Laminitus take to "grow" out? Skin has alot of bruising on his right front, frog, sole and all, it even was weaping when the farrier was trimming him. His other foot has grown out, but this one is STILL bruised. It is worse this trim than last, so that means it is growing out.. but still waiting for him to get better. He is still on anti-inflamitory and asprin and minimal turnout. Is there anything that can "help grow it out" or even help surpress the bruising? I am not going to push him, I know better than that, but I didn't know if anything might help. He is on eggbars and "gel" pads to help support him. Thanks!

08-15-2005, 12:24 PM	#2
MissBandit Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 13,218 Images: 300 Blog Entries: 43	It takes as long as the hoof takes to grow. Anywhere from 6-12 months. You will find the bruising with each hoof trim until it eventually all grows out. __________________ Founder is the #2 killer of horses. Learn how to prevent, spot and treat this deadly disease. Emergency Treatment http://www.laminitisclinic.org

08-15-2005, 12:26 PM	#4
MissBandit Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 13,218 Images: 300 Blog Entries: 43	btw, you cannot suppress the brusing. This damage is showing up from his attack of laminitis, it is not a 'bruise' per say, more of bloody damaged laminae that are growing out. Cornucrescine is a great product that helps in aiding heathy horn growth. __________________ Founder is the #2 killer of horses. Learn how to prevent, spot and treat this deadly disease. Emergency Treatment http://www.laminitisclinic.org

08-15-2005, 01:12 PM	#7
MissBandit Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 13,218 Images: 300 Blog Entries: 43	Any new growth will help get rid of bruising. Take a look at this Formula4 Feet, approved by the Laminitis Trust. http://www.equilife.co.uk/formula4feet.htm __________________ Founder is the #2 killer of horses. Learn how to prevent, spot and treat this deadly disease. Emergency Treatment http://www.laminitisclinic.org

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QHGirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7,118 Images: 287	That is what I figured... 6-12 months.. I am going to be in my corner crying....

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QHGirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7,118 Images: 287	Looking to see if we carry it in the US. THANKS!

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Sue B Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,824 Images: 6	How long has he been on anti-inflammatories and asprin? In general, anti-inflammatories are no longer recommended past the first couple of weeks. Sometimes banamine is ok in more severe cases. The anti-inflammatories actually slow the healing process in the case of laminitis. The body needs to utilize its own healing devices to spead things along. Inflammation is a sign for the body to send healing agents to the area...when the inflammation is surpressed for longer than a couple of weeks, it hinders the body's ability to help itself. I have seen horses that have been on anti-inflammatories that were still lame after months or even a year that were almost instantly running pain free when the drugs were slowly reduced and eventually removed.

08-15-2005, 01:42 PM	#10
QHGirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7,118 Images: 287	My horse is about 1200 lbs... he is a huge muscle stocky boy. He gets one gram asprin am and 1 gram bute in the pm. He has been on them for a while but not that long. We have switched around a few times, this seems like the best situation. True, and I will bring it up with my vet reguarding the anti-inflammatories... Thank You!