broken tree = okay for desensitizing?

Lindsayanne · 01-11-2007, 04:07 PM

Lucy needs totally desensitized to having a saddle put on, taken off, slung around, girthed up, etc. I only have one usable saddle at the moment and that stays with regal at the boarding barn. Is it okay to do this kind of stuff (not ride or put any weight on!!!) with a saddle with a broken tree?

cowgirlkayt · 01-11-2007, 04:10 PM

I dont see why not as long as theres not real pressure being put in the stirrups and you have a good pad undearneth! We've used a saddle with a broken tree for training before we sold it!

Carab · 01-11-2007, 04:14 PM

As long as theres no weight going in the saddle or the stirrups it should be fine.

faroutfax · 01-11-2007, 04:14 PM

I think it is fine unless the tree is like sticking out fo the panels.

JBandRio · 01-11-2007, 04:21 PM

Nope, no way would I put a broken tree on any horse for any reason.

Trees that are broken are crooked at best, and have parts that poke at worst. Having something crooked on a back can minimally cause the horse to travel crooked. At worst, the horse throws in a buck or kick whirl of some sort, and the broken tree pokes into his back, making him fearful of the very thing you're trying to desensitize him to.

Dawn · 01-11-2007, 04:23 PM

I agree with JB on this one. Broken trees are good for decoration only.

Especially if you're going to girth up. That in itself puts pressure on the horse's back.

BornToRide · 01-11-2007, 04:26 PM

No. I wouldnt use a saddle with a broken Tree. You are going to need to be able to do up the saddle. And doing that in itself puts pressure on the saddle and on your horses back. I wouldnt use for any matter. Even just placing it on the horses back i wouldnt do.

faroutfax · 01-11-2007, 04:30 PM

Actually can I change my mind? If you are doing more than just putting it on her back (no girth) then it is fine. But if you are doing it up and say lunglig in it then no.

You can find some pretty cheap beat up saddles for under $30 with sound trees. I have found two. One for $25 and the other for $15. The trees are sound. Bothe of them are just well used

BornToRide · 01-11-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by faroutfax

Actually can I change my mind? If you are doing more than just putting it on her back (no girth) then it is fine. But if you are doing it up and say lunglig in it then no.

You can find some pretty cheap beat up saddles for under $30 with sound trees. I have found two. One for $25 and the other for $15. The trees are sound. Bothe of them are just well used

See but for even Placing on the back. IF the tree is broken the saddle isnt going to sit right. Even without the cinch done up. The saddle itself still has some weight on it. I wouldnt use it.

JBandRio · 01-11-2007, 06:49 PM

Even if you look for a beat up saddle with a good tree, you still MUST make sure that saddle fits that horse, regardless of age. The most common issue is putting a too-narrow saddle on, and that just sets you up for the horse not trusting saddles.

01-11-2007, 04:07 PM	#1
Lindsayanne Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joplin, MO Posts: 9,859 Images: 399	broken tree = okay for desensitizing? Lucy needs totally desensitized to having a saddle put on, taken off, slung around, girthed up, etc. I only have one usable saddle at the moment and that stays with regal at the boarding barn. Is it okay to do this kind of stuff (not ride or put any weight on!!!) with a saddle with a broken tree? __________________ Bashkir Curly Poster Child *NE Prime Time Regal - 2006 ABCR National Champion & 2008 Breyerfest Demo Horse

01-11-2007, 04:14 PM	#3
Carab Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central QLD Posts: 1,703 Images: 128	As long as theres no weight going in the saddle or the stirrups it should be fine. __________________ I like Ed-eward best www.myspace.com/carabcatt Arabians: A little bit of everything perfect

01-11-2007, 04:14 PM	#4
faroutfax Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,942 Images: 452 Blog Entries: 16	I think it is fine unless the tree is like sticking out fo the panels. __________________ One man's wrong lead is another man's counter canter.

01-11-2007, 04:21 PM	#5
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,440 Images: 143 Blog Entries: 12	Nope, no way would I put a broken tree on any horse for any reason. Trees that are broken are crooked at best, and have parts that poke at worst. Having something crooked on a back can minimally cause the horse to travel crooked. At worst, the horse throws in a buck or kick whirl of some sort, and the broken tree pokes into his back, making him fearful of the very thing you're trying to desensitize him to. __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

01-11-2007, 04:26 PM	#7
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,009 Images: 192	No. I wouldnt use a saddle with a broken Tree. You are going to need to be able to do up the saddle. And doing that in itself puts pressure on the saddle and on your horses back. I wouldnt use for any matter. Even just placing it on the horses back i wouldnt do. __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

01-11-2007, 04:10 PM	#2
cowgirlkayt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: saskatoon saskatchewan Posts: 862 Images: 146	I dont see why not as long as theres not real pressure being put in the stirrups and you have a good pad undearneth! We've used a saddle with a broken tree for training before we sold it!

01-11-2007, 04:23 PM	#6
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 31,292 Images: 1386	I agree with JB on this one. Broken trees are good for decoration only. Especially if you're going to girth up. That in itself puts pressure on the horse's back.

01-11-2007, 04:30 PM	#8
faroutfax Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,942 Images: 452 Blog Entries: 16	Actually can I change my mind? If you are doing more than just putting it on her back (no girth) then it is fine. But if you are doing it up and say lunglig in it then no. You can find some pretty cheap beat up saddles for under $30 with sound trees. I have found two. One for $25 and the other for $15. The trees are sound. Bothe of them are just well used __________________ One man's wrong lead is another man's counter canter.

01-11-2007, 06:49 PM	#10
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 23,440 Images: 143 Blog Entries: 12	Even if you look for a beat up saddle with a good tree, you still MUST make sure that saddle fits that horse, regardless of age. The most common issue is putting a too-narrow saddle on, and that just sets you up for the horse not trusting saddles. __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173) - Rio feels good - he bounced an in-and-out

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