Brindle

Top Dun · 12-08-2007, 09:14 AM

I like this brindle from 1901
http://horsecare.stablemade.com/imag..._tiger_200.jpg
153 Norbert 407, gray-brown striped gray Noriker, born 1901, old type, breeding stallion in Silesia 1923.

Smoke N Lace · 12-08-2007, 04:00 PM

From what I've read about brindle, there is one type that is a mixture of dna from two different individuals in the same horse. That would be some sort of freakish thing (with twins?) that wouldn't be able to be passed on by the horse, I think.

Haas Horse Farm · 12-08-2007, 04:15 PM

Chimeras.... are the term for horses that are two horses fused.

Here is an article that was in the AQHA journal...
http://www.aqha.com/magazines/aqhj/c...inamillion.pdf

Shotgun93 · 12-08-2007, 04:26 PM

I trained an Azteca gelding that was brindle, it's hard to get his brindle in any of the pictures, but it's there. It's a pretty neat thing to see in a horse.

Moon:
http://dakotawindsandalusians.com/horses_for_sale.htm

ACCphotography · 12-08-2007, 10:03 PM

Catch a Bird was tested and proven chimera. In fact his "twin" was female.

There is believed to be three possible causes of the brindle phenotype, one being chimera, two being a very rare recessive gene, and three being odd mismarks (birthmarks). Only in VERY few cases has it been known to pass to offspring. It is most often seen in grays and of course fades away... it is believed to be virtually coincidental patterning in grays. I know a brindle stallion that has bred many, many mares and never produced a brindle, he is one believed to be "mismarked". The ones that have produced other brindles have produced maybe one or two foals that were even partially brindled so it is believed to not pass very well. Another interesting aspect is the dun part. It can not be related in any Thoroughbred instances as there is no dun in Thoroughbreds. In the Quarter Horses from dun parents that are clearly dun and brindled, it is believed to simply be EXTREME dun traits. True brindles that don't have dun parentage don't show prominent dun factor and prove that there is brindle beyond dun markings. Those are the ones that seem to be able to produce brindle foals once in a blue moon as opposed to never.

This is just the information I have accumulated over some time of researching "brindle factor".

ACC

gallop4life · 12-10-2007, 06:50 PM

I read an article one time that said the brindle pattern was a result of two sets of DNA. I'll try to find it.

ACCphotography · 12-10-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gallop4life

I read an article one time that said the brindle pattern was a result of two sets of DNA. I'll try to find it.

That is what I meant when I said "chimera". Chimeras carry two sets of DNA.

ACC

Skye · 12-10-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by minilove

I read that book is awesome

I second that. I got it for my birthday this year, and was done reading it within two days. It was impossible to put down.

gallop4life · 12-14-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accphotography

That is what I meant when I said "chimera". Chimeras carry two sets of DNA.

ACC

sorry i didn't see it !!!

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Smoke N Lace Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,760 Images: 20	From what I've read about brindle, there is one type that is a mixture of dna from two different individuals in the same horse. That would be some sort of freakish thing (with twins?) that wouldn't be able to be passed on by the horse, I think. __________________ "Experienced riders are not prone to brag. And usually newcomers, if they start out being boastful, end up modest." C.J.J. Mullen

12-08-2007, 04:26 PM	#34
Shotgun93 Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southwest SD Posts: 14,938 Images: 133	I trained an Azteca gelding that was brindle, it's hard to get his brindle in any of the pictures, but it's there. It's a pretty neat thing to see in a horse. Moon: http://dakotawindsandalusians.com/horses_for_sale.htm __________________ In the quiet light of the stable, you hear a muffled snort, the stamp of a hoof, a friendly nicker. Gentle eyes inquire, "How was your day old friend?" and suddenly, all your troubles fade away. -Author Unknown

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12-08-2007, 10:03 PM	#35
ACCphotography Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 10,270 Images: 1	Catch a Bird was tested and proven chimera. In fact his "twin" was female. There is believed to be three possible causes of the brindle phenotype, one being chimera, two being a very rare recessive gene, and three being odd mismarks (birthmarks). Only in VERY few cases has it been known to pass to offspring. It is most often seen in grays and of course fades away... it is believed to be virtually coincidental patterning in grays. I know a brindle stallion that has bred many, many mares and never produced a brindle, he is one believed to be "mismarked". The ones that have produced other brindles have produced maybe one or two foals that were even partially brindled so it is believed to not pass very well. Another interesting aspect is the dun part. It can not be related in any Thoroughbred instances as there is no dun in Thoroughbreds. In the Quarter Horses from dun parents that are clearly dun and brindled, it is believed to simply be EXTREME dun traits. True brindles that don't have dun parentage don't show prominent dun factor and prove that there is brindle beyond dun markings. Those are the ones that seem to be able to produce brindle foals once in a blue moon as opposed to never. This is just the information I have accumulated over some time of researching "brindle factor". ACC

12-10-2007, 06:50 PM	#36
gallop4life Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ft.Myers Florida Posts: 382 Images: 34	I read an article one time that said the brindle pattern was a result of two sets of DNA. I'll try to find it.