[timberline]

In order for a horse to be registered with the paint association, BOTH it's sire and dam must be paints as well. Otherwise you have to register as Pinto.

Not true, one parent can be registered AQHA or JC.

[7HL]

Actually, "no" isn't the simple answer. It is possible.

AQHA BEGINS REGISTERING HORSES NOW ELIGIBLE
WITH CHANGE TO RULE 227 - "THE WHITE RULE"

April 28, 2004 - The American Quarter Horse Association announced today that it will begin registering horses that were previously ineligible because of rule 227(c) - "the white rule" beginning May 1. To assist owners, the executive committee designated May 1, 2004 as the birth date of these horses, which allows them to be registered at $25 for the first seven months. The fee schedule will progress from that date rather than the actual date the horse was foaled.

Click here to view a chart with these fees .

To be eligible for registration, the owner must provide all customary registration documents - application signed by appropriate person, signed breeder's certificate, stallion breeding report plus any transfers that might be needed. AQHA can contact the American Paint Horse Association for certified copies of AQHA documents if needed. AQHA can only accept documents that are completed on AQHA forms. Owners having difficulty obtaining the necessary documents should proceed with the registration process in order to lock in the lowest possible fees. Once received in AQHA's office, owners needing assistance will be helped by AQHA's Registration Customer Service Department.

"Our ongoing goal is to provide the best, most courteous service possible with anyone who wants their horses registered," said AQHA Executive Director of Registration Gary Griffith. "We recognize that some people will experience difficulties in locating and completing the proper paperwork, and we will use AQHA's best resources to assist anyone who needs it."

Any horses with white markings outside the current limits must be parentage verified, which requires a DNA type of that horse, its sire and dam. Additionally, any horses that are Impressive progeny also must be HYPP tested if we do not have N/N results on file for the progeny parent(s). If the horse is already DNA typed through another equine organization, AQHA can use those tests if they were conducted through the University of California at Davis. HYPP results will be accepted from any licensed lab currently used by AQHA.

Owners of horses with excessive white markings will need to submit photos when applying for registration to determine whether or not they must be parentage verified. On horses with white markings outside the limits, close-up photos must be included with the white area shaved. AQHA also requires a statement regarding the color of skin beneath the hair and the size of the spot.

Owners who have all the necessary paperwork in order but cannot parentage verify a horse because one or both of the parents are unavailable and were never DNA typed can apply for a hardship through December 31, 2005. To be considered under the hardship, every effort must be made to obtain the missing DNA type. Once efforts to parentage verify a horse have been exhausted by AQHA, the owners can ask the executive committee for consideration under the hardship clause.

Anyone with questions concerning excessive white horses is encouraged to contact AQHA

[timberline]

Yes, a foal from QH & Paint parents can be rigistered as AQHA, BUT the parents still need to be registered AQHA aw well. That means the Paint must be duel registered APHA & AQHA.

The registered APHA Paints that are now being accepted into the AQHA registry were originally QH cropouts...they are QH's by breeding that weren't eligible for AQHA registration due to the old colour rules.

[7HL]

Yes, a foal from QH & Paint parents can be rigistered as AQHA, BUT the parents still need to be registered AQHA aw well

Parents don't need to be registered. They could have been from two paints, and grandsires and granddams have been QH. There is also the hardship clause available till 12/31/2005. Contact AQHA.

[Super Step]

Originally Posted by 7HL

Parents don't need to be registered. They could have been from two paints, and grandsires and granddams have been QH. There is also the hardship clause available till 12/31/2005. Contact AQHA.

If either parent is Paint (and not also registered with AQHA), then the foal can not be registered with the AQHA. If it is a solid baby, then it can be registered as a Breed Stock with the APHA.
The white rule only let in foals with out crop white markings in excess of previous AQHA standards. You still must prove through DNA that BOTH parents are AQHA. The AQHA changed the rule because of legal action by owners with to much white and proof that both parents were registered with AQHA.
Both AQHA and APHA consider themselves "Breed" associations and not color associations.
The APHA does accept one parent being AQHA, but the AQHA does not accept any other cross than a TB.

The hardship cases I have been involved in were of horses with 100% QH bloodlines, but rejected by the AQHA fo registeration because of the previous excessive white rules. Th AQHA will contact APHA for a pedigree to certify that the horse, lineage is indeed 100% AQHA with no other infusions of breeds.
That process can get expensive in a hurry.

[timberline]

Well said Super Step!

[DefinitelyADreamer]

I agree well said Super Step!
I just wanted to add that the APHA now has a one Paint parent rule. This means that the foal MUST have one Paint parent, this is to ensure that horses cannot become double registered.

[Snowywood]

I have never understood the fact that you can call a TB Quarter horse cross, a AQH with appendix papers. A Tb is not a Quarter horse and how can you have a purebred horse if you are cross breeding it to a different breed. My personal opinion.

[Blistering Winds]

Snowywood...you do'nt have a purebred.

AQHA's foundings are based MOSTLY On THoroughbreds. That is why you can have an AQHA NUMBERED horse in the Aqha, yet have a TB parent.

How? Because they PROVE they have what it takes to be a Quarter Horse by Show Performance.

Those genetics are allowed to be passed on in the Quarter horse association.]

An APPENDIX is just that. It is a Cross between a Thoroughbred and a Quarter horse, yet does not have the show career to prove it is QUarter horse material.

There are strict rules on how a horse moves from being an "APPENDIX" to a "QUARTER HORSE"

Since the TB was basically the FOUNDATION of the Quarter horse lines, they still, to this day, allow TB blood to enter the pool. This ensures a diverse Genetic Pool that can Improve the Quarter Horse along it's Evolution.

Those that have a TB/Quarter horse cross that call it a Quarter Horse with Appendix Papers is just someone who doesn't understand the process nor the correct terms. If the horse holds Appendix papers, it is just that. An APPENDIX registered through the AQHA.

[doyalikethemoon]

Luke At Me is a perfect example of the "appendix/tb-qh cross" debate. He's purely TB, but has proven himself and (i think) qualified for the QH futurity, so his foals are able to be reg. appendix.

That is what I have come to understand...it's very possible that all of that is a lie.