[lvmypnt]

The mare thread got me thinking and this could be kind of fun and pretty educational without getting any feelings hurt.

This is for geldings only

Everyone post your geldings for a "stallion" critique. Post pics, pedigree and accomplishments.

Also, for those of you who may have gelded a horse, why you decided to geld and are any of you kicking yourself in the butt for doing so.

Ok.... here's my hubby's gelding Jacks Tari (aka: Poncho)......

We bought him as a gelding. I think his pedigree is pretty decent, his personality and disposition are both awesome and I feel he has decent confirmation. He has no accomplishments, other than keeping hubby happy and just being a really good horse. All in all I think he would have made a pretty good stallion.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/jacks+tari



Ok folks tell me if I am wrong in my assesment and why.

[PinkHorse]

Originally Posted by lvmypnt

He has no accomplishments, other than keeping hubby happy and just being a really good horse.

Very cute horse but, in my opinion, ^^^ that's why he's better off as a gelding.

I can honestly say I've never seen a gelding, no matter how nice, where I honestly thought it was a shame he had been gelded. I've seen LOTS of stallions who would be far better off without their testicles.

[aldraper]

I think this thread would be a lot easier to judge if we were holding our geldings to the standards people hold mares to, not the standards we hold stallions to. My jumper pony was a gelding and I would have definitely bred him if he were a mare, but I do not think it is a shame that he was gelded by any means. He wasn't papered and he showed in very few rated shows (because I didn't have the money, not because he wouldn't have done well), but he had heart, was built pretty well, and could jump great!

That has always sort of bothered me that people hold stallions to such higher standards than mares, when they both contribute equally to their offspring's genes.

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[PinkHorse]

Originally Posted by aldraper

That has always sort of bothered me that people hold stallions to such higher standards than mares, when they both contribute equally to their offspring's genes.

I agree in kind of a roundabout way but think that people should hold their mares to a higher standard rather than stallions to a lower one.

Even still, I think only the very best stallions should be bred as they have the potential to produce a lot more offspring in their lifetime than an average mare. If Impressive had been a mare, I'd bet that the HYPP problem wouldn't be on the scale that it is today. I wonder if we'd have even heard of it?!

[Snaffle Bit]

Originally Posted by PinkHorse

I agree in kind of a roundabout way but think that people should hold their mares to a higher standard rather than stallions to a lower one.

Even still, I think only the very best stallions should be bred as they have the potential to produce a lot more offspring in their lifetime than an average mare. If Impressive had been a mare, I'd bet that the HYPP problem wouldn't be on the scale that it is today. I wonder if we'd have even heard of it?!

I agree that this is the reason that stallions need to be absolutely exceptional as horses and as sires. There are plenty of gorgeous stallions who just can't seem to pass it on.

A stallion can easily have 50+ foals. For example, the Arabian Khemosabi had 1,251 foals according to the AHA. That's not including the ones that might not have been registered! By comparison, the top mare only had 22 foals (that's a lot of foals for a mare, but still).

I think both should have high standards, but I would honestly be more likely to take a risk on a nice mare with a few flaws, but a good sound pedigree than I would on a stallion that was anything less than exceptional.

[Capilet]

I hear quite often "Oh, if only he was a mare!" about my Buckley(cover his poor ears, lol). He was a rescue, but AQHA registered as Ida B Buckwheat. I don't know a whole lot about bloodlines, but I know his sire was very we known here. He is a trail, search and rescue and dressage horse.

[Appylvr]

I decided to geld Teak for a number of reasons...

1) No desire of keeping a stud
2) No knowledge of owning a stud
3) No facilities to keep a stud
4) No desire to train/show/market a stud
5) No idea why someone would want to market a B/S Paint anyways

I've had quite a few people tell me I was crazy for gelding him. I've had people stop me on the trail and ask if he was a stallion because they had a mare just perfect for him.

I think he's got good bloodlines, nice conformation, an awesome mind and temperment, beautiful comfortable gaits and a gorgeous color. As for accomplishments... nope. All I've ever been interested in is trail riding. I've been able to break him to ride all by myself (except for the fiasco with that so-called trainer for 5 days) with never doing it before and no hands on or much knowledge on how to and I get compliments on him all the time on how well behaved he is and how relaxed he is on the trail for a 5 year old.
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[gypsy84]

What do you guys think of my sister's Bashkir Curly Horse? He's technically a pony, since he's 13.2h! Sunbeam was "rescued" by my sister from a very neglectful home when he was 8 years old.. Till that time he had never seen the farrier, never seen a vet, never been dewormed, never had shots, etc. Now 3 years later he is an all-around horse, goes western, english, drives, jumps, loves trails, and generally does anything we can think of to ask of him. He is the most laid-back horse ever and as close to "bomb-proof" as any horse can be (look at the last pic if you don't believe me ). Never bucked or reared in his life. He's got the biggest heart out of any horse I have ever ridden and will try his hardest no matter what you ask. He has done all this without any professional training or lessons. He has never been shown due to lack of interest by my sister, but I have no doubt he would be successful at pretty much anything.

Sunbean was actually a stud until he was 4... He sired one foal only.... a hinny. Oh well, maybe my sister will win the lottery and clone him like she's been dreaming about!

[CalRodeoGirl]

lol I luv the dog on top of the horse an it looks so natural