Bleach in water trough?

lvmypnt · 08-11-2008, 04:08 AM

My farrier said this is what she does at her farm to keep the algie down. One cup of bleach added in with the water. Now she has one of the really big troughs.

Has anyone heard of this? Or does anyone do it?

Chester · 08-11-2008, 04:14 AM

I don't know about bleach but if we run out of water and have to use dam water we sterilise it with the stuff you use for sterilising babies bottles and such.

I think we use 1 bottle(750ml or a litre, cant remember) to 250 gallons.

It kills the bacteria and any algae stuff. It is then safe to drink but I only use it that way for washing or showering. I keep the good stuff for drinking.

Tami · 08-11-2008, 04:15 AM

Interesting. I have never heard of this. Even though it is diluted, I would not feel comfortable having them drink bleach water. I have found adding Apple Cider Vinegar helps.

Blistering Winds · 08-11-2008, 04:19 AM

Yes. Been there, done that many times.

What many people don't realize, is after you pour the Bleach in with water, it eventually breaks down and turns into "salt water".

It doesn't remain "bleach". Which is Sodium Hypochlorite. (NaOCl)

What is salt? Sodium Chloride (NaCl)

Once out of the bottle and another reaction occurs, the Oxygen molecule breaks off.

And leaves you with.....SALT!

Just the oxidation process is what is "dangerous". it occurs quick though. that and too much Salt is bad for anyone. Hence the "dilution" factor if you use it to disinfect your water sources.

Tami · 08-11-2008, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

Yes. Been there, done that many times.

What many people don't realize, is after you pour the Bleach in with water, it eventually breaks down and turns into "salt water".

It doesn't remain "bleach". Which is Sodium Hypochlorite. (NaOCl)

What is salt? Sodium Chloride (NaCl)

Once out of the bottle and another reaction occurs, the Oxygen molecule breaks off.

And leaves you with.....SALT!

Just the oxidation process is what is "dangerous". it occurs quick though. that and too much Salt is bad for anyone. Hence the "dilution" factor if you use it to disinfect your water sources.

Very cool.

I figured there had to be some good reason a farrier would recommend/do this.

lvmypnt · 08-11-2008, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

Yes. Been there, done that many times.

What many people don't realize, is after you pour the Bleach in with water, it eventually breaks down and turns into "salt water".

It doesn't remain "bleach". Which is Sodium Hypochlorite. (NaOCl)

What is salt? Sodium Chloride (NaCl)

Once out of the bottle and another reaction occurs, the Oxygen molecule breaks off.

And leaves you with.....SALT!

Just the oxidation process is what is "dangerous". it occurs quick though. that and too much Salt is bad for anyone. Hence the "dilution" factor if you use it to disinfect your water sources.

Does it help enough with Algie to mess with it BW? Or should I just continue to empty and scrub my trough every other day?

Blistering Winds · 08-11-2008, 05:19 AM

Well, I never scrub buckets except maybe monthly when i used it.

Course with a large trough, I prefer fish over bleach

lvmypnt · 08-11-2008, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

Well, I never scrub buckets except maybe monthly when i used it.

Course with a large trough, I prefer fish over bleach

Any chance of harmfull effects with the bleach? Do I need to keep them out of the trough when I first add the bleach? I have one of those small trough's (only about a foot high or less). How much bleach should I use?

Blistering Winds · 08-11-2008, 05:24 AM

capful per gallon

1-2 Tbsp per gallon is in essence what it is....probably closer to 1.

So how many gallons is your tank?

Personally, I add the bleach first, then fill the tank.

Ensures a good "mix"

never seen issues on keeping them off for an hour or letting them have immediate access as long as the dilution factor is correct.

lvmypnt · 08-11-2008, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

capful per gallon

1-2 Tbsp per gallon is in essence what it is....probably closer to 1.

So how many gallons is your tank?

Personally, I add the bleach first, then fill the tank.

Ensures a good "mix"

never seen issues on keeping them off for an hour or letting them have immediate access as long as the dilution factor is correct.

Heck BW, I'm not sure. I think its 50 gallon. This is the one

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Chester Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: inland of the coral sea Posts: 10,197 Images: 777	I don't know about bleach but if we run out of water and have to use dam water we sterilise it with the stuff you use for sterilising babies bottles and such. I think we use 1 bottle(750ml or a litre, cant remember) to 250 gallons. It kills the bacteria and any algae stuff. It is then safe to drink but I only use it that way for washing or showering. I keep the good stuff for drinking. __________________ Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI "We're all members of the outback club, we don't back down and we don't give up" Lee Kernaghan "Good friends are worth more than money any day" Adam Brand Is it full moon time again? Did the cereal truck overturn and fruitloops got spilt?

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Tami Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 453 Images: 40	Interesting. I have never heard of this. Even though it is diluted, I would not feel comfortable having them drink bleach water. I have found adding Apple Cider Vinegar helps. __________________ "I've been around horses my entire life, and still have so much to learn." (by Jesse, farrier for my 1st horse)

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Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	Yes. Been there, done that many times. What many people don't realize, is after you pour the Bleach in with water, it eventually breaks down and turns into "salt water". It doesn't remain "bleach". Which is Sodium Hypochlorite. (NaOCl) What is salt? Sodium Chloride (NaCl) Once out of the bottle and another reaction occurs, the Oxygen molecule breaks off. And leaves you with.....SALT! Just the oxidation process is what is "dangerous". it occurs quick though. that and too much Salt is bad for anyone. Hence the "dilution" factor if you use it to disinfect your water sources. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

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Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	Well, I never scrub buckets except maybe monthly when i used it. Course with a large trough, I prefer fish over bleach __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

08-11-2008, 05:24 AM	#9
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,979 Images: 831 Blog Entries: 17	capful per gallon 1-2 Tbsp per gallon is in essence what it is....probably closer to 1. So how many gallons is your tank? Personally, I add the bleach first, then fill the tank. Ensures a good "mix" never seen issues on keeping them off for an hour or letting them have immediate access as long as the dilution factor is correct. __________________ HGS is a very powerful, addicting place that is just as bad as cigarettes, however healthier for you AND your horse.

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