Bad thrush!

AllAroundRdr · 07-17-2008, 05:38 PM

Or nutrition/dietary suggestions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn

Did the vet not make any mention of the hoof form?

Dawn · 07-17-2008, 05:40 PM

Yes, it's very likely (imo based on these very limited photos and information) that there is at least some constant low grade laminitis going on. Now it could be that the hoof form is just so poor that it's allowing for such bad seperation in the toe. But it's also very likely that there's more to it than that.

accphotography · 07-17-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn

It is quite bad. White line is not caused by mud at all. Mud can make existing white line worse. Same with thrush.

The hoof form shown here is (please do not take offense) absolutely atrocious. Until you fix it, you'll never have a healthy foot. The heels are extremely tall and contracted. There is a lot of dishing (flare) in the toe area.

Those are honestly some of the worst feet I've seen in a long time. I hope your farrier's doing a better job on your other horses. But I have to say I doubt it.

There's absolutely no excuse for a hoof receiving regular care to look like that.

It looks like your vet knows what he's doing as far as the wld goes. But you have to fix that hoof.

Unless this farrier just started trimming this horse's hooves, it's time to go farrier shopping, like yesterday.

Ditto, ditto, ditto.

ACC

PeggySue · 07-17-2008, 06:00 PM

I am appalled and sickened

You need to FIRE that farrier and find one that knows what the **** he/she is doing I can't believe ANY vet would not tell you that already

misbehaveqt1 · 07-17-2008, 08:52 PM

this farrier is new we had problems with our old farrier he just didnt cut them right and he wouldn't tell us anything. We've been treating him for a while for white line and thrush. The vet has come out multiple times. Oh and i take no offense to the comment that they're atrocious because they are. My mother was taking care of them. We have always had a little trouble with an occasional white line and then we'd put medicine on it and it would be gone. But, my mom does clean stalls she just stopped adding dirt and raising up the stalls every year. So, while i wasn't home his stall would get flooded from the rain every night and made his thrush and white line turn into a serious infection.

Also he does have very bad feet because of the owners before him. He was a high level dressage horse along with a hunter jumping doing 4' jumps till his 20's. We got him after he was almost starved to death. His nerve endings where some how damaged and he doesn't absorb all the nutrient in his food so walla thrush. He doesn't get all his nutrient even though we do give him senior beat pulp and a little sweet feed nd he also doesn't have much of an appitite so we literally have to put mollases and anything else he will eat on it.

Now that i am home i can finally take good care of him because obviously my mother doesn't or doesn't notice the problem till it's serious. And to inform everyone who is appalled so am i. and he's coming home with me when i leave.

misbehaveqt1 · 07-17-2008, 08:53 PM

He also has very brittle hoofs i guess i could put it that way. They crack easy and split so that incourages thrush as well the vet said because the bacteria gets in there.

Dawn · 07-18-2008, 04:26 AM

They're brittle because of the infections. It's kind of a big circle everything making everything else worse.

How long has this farrier been working on him?

misbehaveqt1 · 07-18-2008, 07:47 AM

hour and a half

i know the infection makes them brittle but they were brittle before because when he did show they over worked him and never gave him any type of vitamin supplements. Thats what i was told by the vet that had been working on him when they owned him.

AllAroundRdr · 07-18-2008, 09:13 AM

This is a vicious cycle that needs to be stopped ASAP before you have this same problem again/or in the other 3 feet.

Have you thought about consulting an equine nutritionist to get your horse on a BALANCED diet and making sure he has the nutrients he needs for ultimate health as well as fixing this reoccuring problem?

misbehaveqt1 · 07-18-2008, 11:02 AM

thats what we've been doing. Im not letting him in the pasture that was one of the problems because right when it started to get better he would go into the feild and stand in the mud and piddles all day because it felt good. So now we fixed up the stall so he goes from his stall to a round pen everyday till we get it under control and that should help.

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07-17-2008, 05:40 PM	#42
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 31,458 Images: 1390	Yes, it's very likely (imo based on these very limited photos and information) that there is at least some constant low grade laminitis going on. Now it could be that the hoof form is just so poor that it's allowing for such bad seperation in the toe. But it's also very likely that there's more to it than that.

07-17-2008, 08:52 PM	#45
misbehaveqt1 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: south, florida Posts: 265 Images: 5	this farrier is new we had problems with our old farrier he just didnt cut them right and he wouldn't tell us anything. We've been treating him for a while for white line and thrush. The vet has come out multiple times. Oh and i take no offense to the comment that they're atrocious because they are. My mother was taking care of them. We have always had a little trouble with an occasional white line and then we'd put medicine on it and it would be gone. But, my mom does clean stalls she just stopped adding dirt and raising up the stalls every year. So, while i wasn't home his stall would get flooded from the rain every night and made his thrush and white line turn into a serious infection. Also he does have very bad feet because of the owners before him. He was a high level dressage horse along with a hunter jumping doing 4' jumps till his 20's. We got him after he was almost starved to death. His nerve endings where some how damaged and he doesn't absorb all the nutrient in his food so walla thrush. He doesn't get all his nutrient even though we do give him senior beat pulp and a little sweet feed nd he also doesn't have much of an appitite so we literally have to put mollases and anything else he will eat on it. Now that i am home i can finally take good care of him because obviously my mother doesn't or doesn't notice the problem till it's serious. And to inform everyone who is appalled so am i. and he's coming home with me when i leave.

07-17-2008, 08:53 PM	#46
misbehaveqt1 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: south, florida Posts: 265 Images: 5	He also has very brittle hoofs i guess i could put it that way. They crack easy and split so that incourages thrush as well the vet said because the bacteria gets in there.

07-18-2008, 04:26 AM	#47
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 31,458 Images: 1390	They're brittle because of the infections. It's kind of a big circle everything making everything else worse. How long has this farrier been working on him?

07-18-2008, 07:47 AM	#48
misbehaveqt1 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: south, florida Posts: 265 Images: 5	hour and a half i know the infection makes them brittle but they were brittle before because when he did show they over worked him and never gave him any type of vitamin supplements. Thats what i was told by the vet that had been working on him when they owned him.

07-18-2008, 11:02 AM	#50
misbehaveqt1 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: south, florida Posts: 265 Images: 5	thats what we've been doing. Im not letting him in the pasture that was one of the problems because right when it started to get better he would go into the feild and stand in the mud and piddles all day because it felt good. So now we fixed up the stall so he goes from his stall to a round pen everyday till we get it under control and that should help.