Bad thrush!

eqgirl101 · 07-15-2008, 01:30 PM

okay i went out today an it seems that his thrush is pretty much gone butt nowww the souls of his feet are dryy and flaky like.. how can i get them more not so dry because in his turn out its not wet so he cant get it from the mud so is there anything i could put on them?

Dawn · 07-15-2008, 01:31 PM

It's likely his sole exfoliating. What you're seeing is (probably) dead sole that is flaking off on its own.

Lopinslow · 07-15-2008, 01:31 PM

that is one of the problems with most thrush medications, they are VERY drying! i like to overflow the water tank each time i fill it, to keep a wet spot so they can get some moisture to their feet.

eqgirl101 · 07-15-2008, 02:27 PM

well is it bad that theyre flaky? or does that show that it is gone and its going away? is there anything product i could put on the souls?

Hunter_Bum · 07-15-2008, 03:33 PM

I think the green stuff your using is Coppertox, its stains everything with works well. and prevents it. Thrush buster works great too.

Dawn · 07-15-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eqgirl101

well is it bad that theyre flaky? or does that show that it is gone and its going away? is there anything product i could put on the souls?

It's really impossible to say without seeing the feet and determining what is causing the flakiness. If it's simply normal sole exfoliation, that's fine. If its the sole sloughing off due to spreading infection, that's not fine. If it's a build up of sole that's been allowed to accumulate without natural shedding, that's fine in and of itself, but the circumstances causing it are not fine.

misbehaveqt1 · 07-16-2008, 04:40 PM

well could someone tell me how to wrap the feet. My 32 yr old has bad thrush REally bad. The farrier has ocme out i've tried bleach, thrush buster, and this stuff that dies everything red. I live in florida so no dry place in sight. I dont want to put him down but he has no more frog left in any of his feet vet has seen this horse his whole life said he's prone to it.

IIIBarsV · 07-16-2008, 06:15 PM

I use a product called Virkon. Comes in a powder, mix it with water, spray, soak, or flush. It kills thrush in two treatments but of course, if you're dealing with a closed-over frog crevice, you will have to continue to treat it daily until it's fully opened up again. Virkon is very gentle and non-irritant. I use it on scratches/rainrot/mud fever funguses with great success. It works quicker and more efficiently than anything else I've had.

One technique I use on a mare of mine who has a very closed over frog crevice is to load a syringe with the Virkon, get the tip of the syringe down into the crevice from the edge closest to the heel bulbs, and then flush it. I will continue to do this until she's grown a frog and opened up the crevice.

What part of the frog is affected by thrush right now? The center crevice or the sides of the frog? The frog does not look particularly closed over in the center (so you won't need to syringe-flush them), although the toes look too long from my viewpoint. But that's another matter. lol

What that frog does look in need of is some more ground contact than it's getting. There are a variety of ways to do this. Shoeing options are plentiful, but can be risky considering most of them involve covering the frog with something- if thrush is present, you want that frog to have as much air as possible. Going barefoot for a while is another, but that can be quite complicated if the horse comes up lame without his shoes.

misbehaveqt1 · 07-16-2008, 06:27 PM

there is no frog its inexistent its all gone. the rain has just killed his feet

Dawn · 07-16-2008, 06:29 PM

It would be helpful to see photos of this horse's feet. Now it could be possible that they're in good condition now, but the thrush had such a strong hold at a time when they weren't, that it's not letting go now either.

If it's as bad as it sounds, it's time for systemic treatment. Meaning oral (or injected) antibiotics as well as topical treatments.

In a situation like this, you want to use the least caustic meds you can (which absolutely 100% means no clorox!). As you want to preserve every last bit of healthy growth that you can get.

Now, are the frogs (or frog area) open into the live tissue? Or are they just so shriveled up that they appear to be 'gone'?

07-15-2008, 01:31 PM	#23
Lopinslow Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MN Posts: 877 Images: 25	that is one of the problems with most thrush medications, they are VERY drying! i like to overflow the water tank each time i fill it, to keep a wet spot so they can get some moisture to their feet. __________________ Quality AQHA Western Pleasure Horses The Naughty Version, Goallthewaymay & Unzipped n Naughty

07-16-2008, 06:15 PM	#28
IIIBarsV Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,721 Images: 27	I use a product called Virkon. Comes in a powder, mix it with water, spray, soak, or flush. It kills thrush in two treatments but of course, if you're dealing with a closed-over frog crevice, you will have to continue to treat it daily until it's fully opened up again. Virkon is very gentle and non-irritant. I use it on scratches/rainrot/mud fever funguses with great success. It works quicker and more efficiently than anything else I've had. One technique I use on a mare of mine who has a very closed over frog crevice is to load a syringe with the Virkon, get the tip of the syringe down into the crevice from the edge closest to the heel bulbs, and then flush it. I will continue to do this until she's grown a frog and opened up the crevice. What part of the frog is affected by thrush right now? The center crevice or the sides of the frog? The frog does not look particularly closed over in the center (so you won't need to syringe-flush them), although the toes look too long from my viewpoint. But that's another matter. lol What that frog does look in need of is some more ground contact than it's getting. There are a variety of ways to do this. Shoeing options are plentiful, but can be risky considering most of them involve covering the frog with something- if thrush is present, you want that frog to have as much air as possible. Going barefoot for a while is another, but that can be quite complicated if the horse comes up lame without his shoes. __________________ Three Bars The Fifth Wish I'd Get Lucky Chipped In Stone Zip Code Bay B Suns Eternal Flame I have been snowballed, right in the kisser!

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07-15-2008, 01:30 PM	#21
eqgirl101 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 321 Images: 20	okay i went out today an it seems that his thrush is pretty much gone butt nowww the souls of his feet are dryy and flaky like.. how can i get them more not so dry because in his turn out its not wet so he cant get it from the mud so is there anything i could put on them?

07-15-2008, 01:31 PM	#22
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 31,458 Images: 1390	It's likely his sole exfoliating. What you're seeing is (probably) dead sole that is flaking off on its own.

07-15-2008, 02:27 PM	#24
eqgirl101 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 321 Images: 20	well is it bad that theyre flaky? or does that show that it is gone and its going away? is there anything product i could put on the souls?

07-15-2008, 03:33 PM	#25
Hunter_Bum Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Coast of Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 452 Images: 2	I think the green stuff your using is Coppertox, its stains everything with works well. and prevents it. Thrush buster works great too.

07-16-2008, 04:40 PM	#27
misbehaveqt1 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: south, florida Posts: 265 Images: 5	well could someone tell me how to wrap the feet. My 32 yr old has bad thrush REally bad. The farrier has ocme out i've tried bleach, thrush buster, and this stuff that dies everything red. I live in florida so no dry place in sight. I dont want to put him down but he has no more frog left in any of his feet vet has seen this horse his whole life said he's prone to it.

07-16-2008, 06:27 PM	#29
misbehaveqt1 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: south, florida Posts: 265 Images: 5	there is no frog its inexistent its all gone. the rain has just killed his feet

07-16-2008, 06:29 PM	#30
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 31,458 Images: 1390	It would be helpful to see photos of this horse's feet. Now it could be possible that they're in good condition now, but the thrush had such a strong hold at a time when they weren't, that it's not letting go now either. If it's as bad as it sounds, it's time for systemic treatment. Meaning oral (or injected) antibiotics as well as topical treatments. In a situation like this, you want to use the least caustic meds you can (which absolutely 100% means no clorox!). As you want to preserve every last bit of healthy growth that you can get. Now, are the frogs (or frog area) open into the live tissue? Or are they just so shriveled up that they appear to be 'gone'?