back cinch??!?!?!

sonnysstar · 02-26-2005, 07:32 AM

My trainer told me that it would be good if I got a back cinch for my saddle, cause its kinda being pulled down on the front, so when it is done up, it's too tight on her withers, and really high off her back.

I just don't know anything about back cinchs! Do I have to measure for them? If so, how? What attachements should I expect to come with it? What is the average cost? (in Canadian dollars) Anything you know would be a great help, becasue I've NEVER had to use one before!

DesertBred · 02-26-2005, 07:38 AM

Hmmm, well I am not a western rider, but I think that back cinches are used for extra precaution, not to hold the saddle down...ie they are not supposed to be tightened up. Maybe the saddle fit is wrong if you are having that problem...I am sure the western people will give you some good advice

sonnysstar · 02-26-2005, 07:44 AM

no, the saddle fits fine... its just weird... it was the only saddle we could get to fit, so its actually a barrel racing saddle, and as far as i know, alot of those tend to use the back cinch. my trainer said i would have to do it up kinda tight... not lose and hanging like in the rodeos, but not nearly as tight as a front cinch.... I don't know... the whole conversation confused me... but I have had other people tell me I should think about getting one....

cowgurl1811 · 02-26-2005, 08:11 AM

Wait, So u want it to keep you saddle from sliding up?? I think in confused, lol. I Know when i use mine it is for the purpose of when i run it keep the saddle from popping up in the back. I dont think you would want it tight enough to keep from sliding forward. Maybe you should think about somethine else. Let me know if your saddle is sliding forward and i might could help you....?

sonnysstar · 02-26-2005, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgurl1811

Wait, So u want it to keep you saddle from sliding up?? I think in confused, lol. I Know when i use mine it is for the purpose of when i run it keep the saddle from popping up in the back. I dont think you would want it tight enough to keep from sliding forward. Maybe you should think about somethine else. Let me know if your saddle is sliding forward and i might could help you....?

no! i'm sorry if i've been confising! I want to use it to stop the saddle from popping up in the back! wow, I have to try to sound LESS confusing! lol

cowgurl1811 · 02-26-2005, 08:19 AM

Well, lol. Then that is the point, BUT you barely want it touching you horse, like a wee bit hanging is great. If you tighten it you horse will more then likely buck. Hope the back cinch helps u!! - Meg

sonnysstar · 02-26-2005, 08:22 AM

Thanks! Do you now if I'm supposed to measure for it? I've never used one before!

TrickPony · 02-26-2005, 08:22 AM

Ok... here's the thing. I know you said your saddle fit correctly, but it doesn't sound that way to me. Unless you are running barrels (where you're really forward in the saddle maybe?) or doing heavy duty trail rides or roping or something, in all technicality you shouldn't need a back cinch.

Regardless - here's the info. If your horse has never worn a back cinch before, you cannot start with it "almost as tight as the front cinch". She's either gonna buck you off or get too sore. Usually, when we rope (or whatever) we tighten the back cinch and then hop off and loosen it when we're done. So, you can't ride that way forever, it'll just be really hard on her.
Regardless, if you do buy a back cinch - buy a thicker one because of what you're using it for. Make sure it's at least 3 inches in the center (they go up to six! LOL)

I don't believe they're sized in length... probably just "horse size".
You'll probably expect to pay $50-60 for a good one. You'll also need two billets (those straps that hang from the back of your saddle) and a connecting string (not sure of actual name) on the bottom to connect it to your front cinch. Most come standard with it, but if the one you buy doesn't... connect it to that front cinch! LOL
Otherwise you'll flank your horse and end up on the ground before you know what happened (lots of personal experience here... LOL).

Hope that helped.

-Alex

SunBun · 02-26-2005, 08:30 AM

Back cinches aren't mean to be tight. From what I know, their only purpose is to keep the saddle from popping up if the horse bucks. If your saddle is popping up in the back, something is wrong. It shouldn't do that if it fits. Is it still popping up even when you're sitting in it?

amysmoney · 02-26-2005, 08:31 AM

Very well said Trickpony. But Sunbun is right, if it's still popping up in back when your in the saddel then, it's a fitting issue

02-26-2005, 07:32 AM	#1
sonnysstar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 907 Images: 88	back cinch??!?!?! My trainer told me that it would be good if I got a back cinch for my saddle, cause its kinda being pulled down on the front, so when it is done up, it's too tight on her withers, and really high off her back. I just don't know anything about back cinchs! Do I have to measure for them? If so, how? What attachements should I expect to come with it? What is the average cost? (in Canadian dollars) Anything you know would be a great help, becasue I've NEVER had to use one before! __________________ Sonnys Star 1995 Appaloosa Mare

02-26-2005, 07:38 AM	#2
DesertBred Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aledo, Texas Posts: 2,030 Images: 125	Hmmm, well I am not a western rider, but I think that back cinches are used for extra precaution, not to hold the saddle down...ie they are not supposed to be tightened up. Maybe the saddle fit is wrong if you are having that problem...I am sure the western people will give you some good advice __________________ "The Air of Heaven is that which Blows Between a Horse's Ears" Gabriel MO - Hanoverian Comandeoro (Mr. C) - Egyptian Arabian

02-26-2005, 07:44 AM	#3
sonnysstar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 907 Images: 88	no, the saddle fits fine... its just weird... it was the only saddle we could get to fit, so its actually a barrel racing saddle, and as far as i know, alot of those tend to use the back cinch. my trainer said i would have to do it up kinda tight... not lose and hanging like in the rodeos, but not nearly as tight as a front cinch.... I don't know... the whole conversation confused me... but I have had other people tell me I should think about getting one.... __________________ Sonnys Star 1995 Appaloosa Mare

02-26-2005, 08:11 AM	#4
cowgurl1811 Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,884 Images: 215 Blog Entries: 2	Wait, So u want it to keep you saddle from sliding up?? I think in confused, lol. I Know when i use mine it is for the purpose of when i run it keep the saddle from popping up in the back. I dont think you would want it tight enough to keep from sliding forward. Maybe you should think about somethine else. Let me know if your saddle is sliding forward and i might could help you....? __________________ <3 Megs Arnold and Barbie

02-26-2005, 08:19 AM	#6
cowgurl1811 Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,884 Images: 215 Blog Entries: 2	Well, lol. Then that is the point, BUT you barely want it touching you horse, like a wee bit hanging is great. If you tighten it you horse will more then likely buck. Hope the back cinch helps u!! - Meg __________________ <3 Megs Arnold and Barbie

02-26-2005, 08:22 AM	#7
sonnysstar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 907 Images: 88	Thanks! Do you now if I'm supposed to measure for it? I've never used one before! __________________ Sonnys Star 1995 Appaloosa Mare

02-26-2005, 08:22 AM	#8
TrickPony Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 2,600 Images: 241 Blog Entries: 23	Ok... here's the thing. I know you said your saddle fit correctly, but it doesn't sound that way to me. Unless you are running barrels (where you're really forward in the saddle maybe?) or doing heavy duty trail rides or roping or something, in all technicality you shouldn't need a back cinch. Regardless - here's the info. If your horse has never worn a back cinch before, you cannot start with it "almost as tight as the front cinch". She's either gonna buck you off or get too sore. Usually, when we rope (or whatever) we tighten the back cinch and then hop off and loosen it when we're done. So, you can't ride that way forever, it'll just be really hard on her. Regardless, if you do buy a back cinch - buy a thicker one because of what you're using it for. Make sure it's at least 3 inches in the center (they go up to six! LOL) I don't believe they're sized in length... probably just "horse size". You'll probably expect to pay $50-60 for a good one. You'll also need two billets (those straps that hang from the back of your saddle) and a connecting string (not sure of actual name) on the bottom to connect it to your front cinch. Most come standard with it, but if the one you buy doesn't... connect it to that front cinch! LOL Otherwise you'll flank your horse and end up on the ground before you know what happened (lots of personal experience here... LOL). Hope that helped. -Alex __________________ "I do what I please and I do it with ease." I've been booed!

02-26-2005, 08:31 AM	#10
amysmoney Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA, KY Posts: 605 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 1	Very well said Trickpony. But Sunbun is right, if it's still popping up in back when your in the saddel then, it's a fitting issue __________________ *Amy* My Horses Sydney you will be missed, but never forgotten, 3/19/1993-2/5/2006

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