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    Question Arabians without dished head

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    I'm trying to find informations about arabians without dished face. No or almost no concavity... Do they exist? I'm sure I saw them before Is there a line of them like polish, egyptians, etc or are they only "a conformation fault"?
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    Less dishy tend to be more the Polish, Spanish, Shagya, etc. Egyptian typically have dishy heads.
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    Yes I've seen plenty.

    This is our purebred mare who we recently sold


    She is Crabbet/Egyptian - her sire was very dishy but her dam was plainer than she was. I know of plenty of purebreds plainer than her, so they do exist!
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    I am really impressed by arabians, but not by dish heads... One time, when I'll have enough money for another horse I'd really love to own an arabian. And do endurance

    Does no concavity go against them at halter shows?
    What about genetics, can you predict if foal will have dish or not? Do parents without dishes mean no dish foal?
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    P.s.: what a gorgeous mare, lollaughatloud. That would be exactly the kind of head I would be looking for
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    Just wanted to add, not all Straight Egyptians have an extremely dished face.

    This is my 4yr old

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    Beautiful! How did his/her parents look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manca View Post
    I am really impressed by arabians, but not by dish heads... One time, when I'll have enough money for another horse I'd really love to own an arabian. And do endurance

    Does no concavity go against them at halter shows?
    What about genetics, can you predict if foal will have dish or not? Do parents without dishes mean no dish foal?
    I don't know what the judging is like in other countries, but in Australia, yes it does go against them in the show ring. Their head especially is a huge part of 'Arabian Type' which is part of what they're judged on.

    As for foals, I think it would have to have something to do with it. Our mare has had 3 foals. I have no idea about the first one. The second foal was purebred, by a very typey stallion, and the foal was about half way in between both parents. Her most recent foal is by a very NON-Arabian Australian stock horse, with a very straight head. The foal is very plain by Arab standards, but she it still pretty - just not 'typey'.
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    Here is his pedigree. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shamalee+bakkir

    Bakkir and his Dam - She has a beautiful face but I'm biased - lol! I really fell head over heals in love with this mare.



    and with her second colt










    and his Sire (more of a dished head)

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    Actually, the majority of Arabs won't have that really dishy head. You'll see a lot with a little bit of a dish, but for the most part you don't see the extreme.

    Some of mine.

    WOA Matador+/ (almost Straight Russian - National Champion under saddle)



    CW Monsoon (Magnum Psyche grandson on top, Monogramm grandson through bottom)


    S Just DiMaggio (Saddle Seat breeding - National Top Ten & Regional Champ in halter)




    My three purebred mares definitely have dishy heads, but it really just makes them look feminine. I'm okay with that
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