[Cool Time 84]

I don't care for the pink on Snowy's face, other than that he's a fine looking horse.

R Khasper
Looks okay, the pics aren't very large, so I can't get a great idea of what he looks like.

FV Sharabba
Is like AWESOME! But his stud fee is pretty high too!

DHL Strikeit Rich
Of course you know I like him! On your original Breeding page I expressed my opinion!

FV Aulfarwa
Cannot access his page from school... will have to do it at home.

FV Aul Rabba
Cannot access his either.

FV Ibn Aulrab
Cannot Access. Will do at home.

JAA Jub Ali
His head is nice, but they don't have a page for him, so I can't say too much about it!

Stephanie

I love looking at the pics, so don't worry about asking me to Critique them!

[HorseCrazy1981]

Ya know, if I could afford (talk about giraffe-necked) Vesace's stud fee (heaven forbid, lol) We probably wouldn't be talking about all these other nice stallions.

I like looking at all kinds of pics of all kinds of horses of all colors and breeds. It is so interesting to learn about. I saw the coolest Appaloosa stud the other day, but I can't find his pic now, I was gonna post it so you guys could say love it or "hate" it. I was thinking way in the future then, about what the foal would look like if I bred him to my Belgian, lol.

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[Sandra-A1]

Question....what are you wanting to produce....?
If you are wanting a "colored" Arabian remember than none of these purebred stallions that you have shown are homozygous for this coloring so you do have a very good chance of getting a solid foal. In fact a better chance than of getting color!
While there are purebred breeders who are working toward fixing the pinto color trait so that it will be homozygous to the best of my knowledge it has not happened yet. I do not know of any purebred Arabian Stallion that has tested pinto homozygous.

While I am sure you already know this let me repete it for anyone who is new to the forum and this discussion:
Have you have your mare evaluated by and talked to a Professional Trainer who is also a carded "R" AHA Judge? That is the first thing that needs to be done so you will have a better idea about the type of stallion you need to be looking at. That one thing will narrow the stallion field down for you a LOT!
If you are breeding for a specific performance event a professional will help you.
If you are breeding for competition you need to decide what level of competition are you interested in?
Also are you interested in participating in the different futurity programs? If so which ones? These questions as well as several more need to be answered BEFORE you even began to look at stallions.
While we all love to look at stallions...breeding a mare is something that takes a lot of thought and honestly it helps a LOT to have a professional advising you! As I have said on this forum several times before....the Professional Trainer can really assist you with getting the best foal possible from a mare. He/she will give you an honest evaluation of your mare and yes, even tell you if you need to take that money you have been saving to breed and go buy a different mare!
While we all love our horses and hope to have them forever we have to realize that things can happen in our lives that can change things and we might end up having to sell our beloved horses. That thought needs to always be in the back of our minds! We owe it to our horses to make sure they are as well trained and athletic as possible to help them have good lives if we are ever forced to part with them.
The same goes for any foal we produce. We need to do all we can to help us produce the best foal possible. Seeking out several Professionals as I have mentioned to have the mare honestly evaluated is a very important and helpful first step. The evaluation will provide you with information that will give you a starting point on your search for a suitable stallion.

[HorseCrazy1981]

Actually there is one lady that judges the halter classes at our fun shows that judges Arabian shows. She wasn't at our last show, but I was planning on talking to her at our next show, if she comes. My mare tends to throw some roaning in her foals it seems.

Sandra, what are your thoughts on the stallions though? Just curious.

[Sandra-A1]

If it was me and I owned a purebred mare...

Well, actually, I would not consider any of them...sorry that is just me. If I wanted color I will go to a homozygous stallion of another breed such as a Saddlebred and breed for a triple registered foal: PtHA, NSH & Half Arabian.

Not one of those stallions has enough of a show record or enough winning get with titles that would interest me. They have not "proven" themselves enough for me.

The stallion that would interest me belongs to an aquantance and her husband. His name is: Justafire DGL...but then, I do love the EP horses! wink
Justafire DGL

Yes, if you can save up enough to get a breeding to "Versace" then you should do so! He is getting excellent foals!

[HorseCrazy1981]

I will have to look more at him when I get home. I am still looking at all of these stallions. Some of these studs won't be on my Datasource disk, so I will do more research on them too. I was just asking about their looks, conformation, etc. Those pics are kinda old, but I did get some phone numbers off the internet and I will be calling to see if I can get better pics.

[Sandra-A1]

I have a weird way of thinking when it comes to stallion photos. I feel if the stallion owner does not care enough to get good quality professional shots taken of their stallion then they do not really care about getting my business.
There job is to get my attention and interest with their advertising program. If they do not budget enough advertising dollars to have good sharp clear photos taken then I question their ability to manage and promote their stallion to the benefit of me and any foal I might get if I bred to their stallion.
Managing and promoting a stallion is a serious business if you want to make any sort of money from your stallion. If they are not willing to put forth the effort and learn how to do the job right they will not be getting a look for me.
Also while I understand that some of these stallion owners might just be starting out and learning the ropes....well once they learn them...and if they learn them well....then they will be able to get my attention and I will consider their stallion.
Yes I also look for the backyard unknown.
It has been my experience that the successful ones are owned by someone who has been in the breed for a long time and already knows the ropes when it comes to stallion promotion...or it is a newbie who knows or is told that they have a really good one and instantly seeks out professional help to either market or promote their stallion.

[Cool Time 84]

CWA Tajamal
It seems that I have to e-mail for more information, of which I won't do, since I am not interested in breeding my mares to arabs. I don't own an arab mare yet (will in a few years) so I won't bother them.

Masterpeice
The picture is not good, so I cannot really tell. He looks okay. But I would have to see a confo. Pic in order to really give my honest opinion.

FV Aulfarwa
I don't care for him at all... He's not really Araby in my opinion, he needs more refinement. I wouldn't risk it really.

FV Aul Rabba
Same as his half brother Aulfarwa... He's too stocky. kinda reminds me of a Painted Quarab or are Spotted Walker!

FV Ibn Aulrab
I still can't load his page, dunno whats up with that!

Steph

[HorseCrazy1981]

I completely understand Sandra. I don't know any professional photographers around here that do animals. I know there should be some, I guess I am too lazy to get out the old phonebook when I have my own digital camera. Plus my horses don't know how to stand right (or still) anyway... blushing . I guess I should teach them that eventually, so they don't always look like backyard mules, lol.

CWA Tajamal, I guess I will bother them, lol. He looks like he is a nice color, but your right, can't really tell anything else.

I would like to find out about Phantom Ice, but they don't have anything on him there, guess I will either have to email windsong, or go to Datasource if he is there or maybe the AHA.

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[Sandra-A1]

HorseCrazy1981 most of the well known Professional Photographers travel to their clients...state to state if necessary.
If you have a local community college check to see if it offers photography classes. If so you might can get the instructor to come shoot photos of your horses for you or to get one of the students who could do the job to come take pictures of your horses for you!
Just be sure to have magazines with the type of photos you have in mind so show him/her so they will know what you want.
Yes, it helps to have the horse trained so that you can stand them up like you want but it is not always necessary. The secret is to have LOTS of good help there with you the day photos are being taken! People who know what to do and when to do it! How do you think they get all of those wonderful shots of foals, yearlings as well as the stallions running loose shots in the magazines.....? wink .....