Appraise Vinny? (Hano x Selle)

merlin · 11-06-2009, 07:18 PM

THANK GOD You're not selling him.. You and him are perfect together!

xduckehx · 11-07-2009, 03:36 PM

just giving this a bit of a bump

atabal · 11-07-2009, 04:27 PM

i would say it all depends...

on his training (pro or ammy), his rideability , his temperment, his athleticism, and how he feels to sit on. etc

and also, it depends on what discipline you are marketing too. dressgae folks want specific traits.... as i suppose hunters etc.

the best idea if you are looking to sell - is figure out what his niche is and market him in that direction.

the one caveat - for dressage if he is being trained by an ammy with no real dressage (FEI) level training experience you will have a hard time selling him for much over 10k... he just wont ave the correct foundation and will need to be restarted.

Rhythm 'n Blues · 11-07-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atabal

the one caveat - for dressage if he is being trained by an ammy with no real dressage (FEI) level training experience you will have a hard time selling him for much over 10k... he just wont ave the correct foundation and will need to be restarted.

Ouch -- I honestly think that's totally un-called for and acutally rude!

Sorry, but you don't have to have FEI level training experience to start a horse correctly! Sheesh, I don't have that, and I train & sell Dressage horses, and yes I do ask over 10K for some. I can assure you they ARE started correctly & don't need "restarting"

atabal · 11-07-2009, 04:53 PM

wasnt trying to be rude! i dont know you or how you train, so dont take it personally.

what i posted is my opinion. and i agree that you dont need fei experience to "start" a horse correctly. i did say "Trained" - to me starting is the first 30 days. training comes after.

Rhythm 'n Blues · 11-07-2009, 05:05 PM

^^ If you don't know anyone and their horses, then I wouldn't be saying that anyone training with out FEI training experience means the horse will need to be restarted!

As per your definition, I then start & train dressage horses. The last one I sold was a solid 1st level horse, started 2nd level when he left me. My current one is a near solid 2nd level and has started some 3rd level movements as well. Other horses have all been at least a solid 1st level horse, if not 2nd. I jsut haven't kept them long enough to get past the 2nd and onto 3rd. I did however get the lovely joy of caring for a friends horse who was schooling PSG and he was a total hoot to ride, so I have experience riding the higher level movements, but not alot.

Delgado · 11-07-2009, 05:17 PM

Holy moly! That boy is gorgeous and you've definitely got a jewel on your hands. Just like joking said, enter him in a few more shows. Up his experience a little bit and you've eaaasily got a 12k. I'm still in awe.

MysticRealm · 11-07-2009, 07:09 PM

I haven't seen any pictures of you showing at FEI level atabal so I guess if you sell any of your horses (do you have any?) then they will have to sell for cheap as they will all need restarting.
I am sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Especially if she is working with an experienced instructor (or has trained a few horses to a higher level herself).

AllInCommand · 11-07-2009, 07:18 PM

Wow No Appraisel Just Drooling over your Gorgeous Horse.

shenanigans · 11-07-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atabal

i would say it all depends...

on his training (pro or ammy), his rideability , his temperment, his athleticism, and how he feels to sit on. etc

and also, it depends on what discipline you are marketing too. dressgae folks want specific traits.... as i suppose hunters etc.

the best idea if you are looking to sell - is figure out what his niche is and market him in that direction.

the one caveat - for dressage if he is being trained by an ammy with no real dressage (FEI) level training experience you will have a hard time selling him for much over 10k... he just wont ave the correct foundation and will need to be restarted.

Well I appreciate the fact that ths is your opinion, I don't think that you have any knowledge of this horse & rider/trainer combination, so how can you even remark on needing to be retrained.

And I don't believe she made any comment regarding FEI or her desire to turn him into an FEI ride.

With all due respect, that's just my opinion though.

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11-07-2009, 05:05 PM	#36
Rhythm 'n Blues Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,663 Images: 172	^^ If you don't know anyone and their horses, then I wouldn't be saying that anyone training with out FEI training experience means the horse will need to be restarted! As per your definition, I then start & train dressage horses. The last one I sold was a solid 1st level horse, started 2nd level when he left me. My current one is a near solid 2nd level and has started some 3rd level movements as well. Other horses have all been at least a solid 1st level horse, if not 2nd. I jsut haven't kept them long enough to get past the 2nd and onto 3rd. I did however get the lovely joy of caring for a friends horse who was schooling PSG and he was a total hoot to ride, so I have experience riding the higher level movements, but not alot. __________________ Pay equal (if not more) attention to your own self carriage as that of your horse

11-07-2009, 05:17 PM	#37
Delgado Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 155	Holy moly! That boy is gorgeous and you've definitely got a jewel on your hands. Just like joking said, enter him in a few more shows. Up his experience a little bit and you've eaaasily got a 12k. I'm still in awe. __________________ D e l g a d o , 8 Y r O l d O T T B ; " I m a g i n e T h a t " http://i29.tinypic.com/2nqtx6d.png http://cardinalkisses.blogspot.com/

11-07-2009, 07:09 PM	#38
MysticRealm Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,240 Images: 54	I haven't seen any pictures of you showing at FEI level atabal so I guess if you sell any of your horses (do you have any?) then they will have to sell for cheap as they will all need restarting. I am sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Especially if she is working with an experienced instructor (or has trained a few horses to a higher level herself). __________________ Proud Owner of Elis (Canadian Sport Horse), Markie (thoroughbred), Bear (pomeranian/shih tzu/ terrier), and Styder (Toy Poodle) and Vega (thoroughbred)

11-07-2009, 04:27 PM	#33
atabal Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 16	i would say it all depends... on his training (pro or ammy), his rideability , his temperment, his athleticism, and how he feels to sit on. etc and also, it depends on what discipline you are marketing too. dressgae folks want specific traits.... as i suppose hunters etc. the best idea if you are looking to sell - is figure out what his niche is and market him in that direction. the one caveat - for dressage if he is being trained by an ammy with no real dressage (FEI) level training experience you will have a hard time selling him for much over 10k... he just wont ave the correct foundation and will need to be restarted.

11-07-2009, 04:53 PM	#35
atabal Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 16	wasnt trying to be rude! i dont know you or how you train, so dont take it personally. what i posted is my opinion. and i agree that you dont need fei experience to "start" a horse correctly. i did say "Trained" - to me starting is the first 30 days. training comes after.

11-07-2009, 07:18 PM	#39
AllInCommand Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virgina Posts: 632	Wow No Appraisel Just Drooling over your Gorgeous Horse.

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