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Old 10-31-2009, 07:23 AM   #31
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I find it rather interesting.
I think it would be useful especially for a horse that doesn't have a lot of body control like that lady in the video said the horse didn't have.
One rein stop I find is rather dangerous for a horse that doesn't have a lot of body and flexing work done on it.
That being said I also find that for me, my horses that have that body work that worst they ever do is jump forward and I can pick my hand up and regain that control I had before because they are so flexible and together.
That being said obviously there are cases where a horse just gets so excited and gets strong in something like jumping and dressage.
It's an interesting stop method that I probably won't use, unless I have a horse with a serious bolting issue. Because other wise I have no reason for practising that.
I like my bumping around the leg trick for now
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:54 AM   #32
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No I have yet to have a horse who needs any type of "emergency" stop method used. We train the horses to actually stop when asked so it takes very little to get them to stop. They hunt the stop.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:04 AM   #33
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No I have yet to have a horse who needs any type of "emergency" stop method used. We train the horses to actually stop when asked so it takes very little to get them to stop. They hunt the stop.
I agree. I seriously cannot imagine my horses bolting on me and not stopping. Sure they'll spook and jump sideways but thats about it. I saw my old gelding bolt on a girl who didn't really know how to ride. Once he stopped I got on him, I could feel him starting to think about running off, took defensive action and it never materialized.
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:31 PM   #34
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I have tried the one rein stop and it failed me the very first time I ever NEEDED it. (Horse has his nose on my thigh, for goodness' sake, and still runs dead straight. Sigh.) I got a mare once that had been taught the calvary stop, and it worked every time she bolted. (She was particularly spooky.) She had had extensive training, parades and such. She did all sorts of really nice tricks that took me forever to figure out when I was hitting a button and what she would do when I did...
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:53 PM   #35
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I find that, on a bolting horse, my rein stop almost always works better when given in conjunction with a sharp kick (not hard, but quick and "loud"). Every time I have done it the horse has had a moment of "what the?" that allowed me to get back in control.
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:53 PM   #36
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I have used this method many of times on my former event horse (he was SUPER strong!) What I like about it is it stops them, but it doesn't unbalance them as much as the 1 rein stop does, so it seems a lot safer to me.

Exactly. You have a much better chance of getting the head up than you do around. At any speed, a one rein stop, if done really quickly, could produce a wreck. In the pulley stop, you only have a few seconds to get off the horse once it's stopped, but the horse is still balanced and you can bail a bit safer then. It's only for emergencies. Practicing it with energy could be painful to your horse.
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no but i used one where you kinda saw on the mouth! i know it sounds AWFUL but if your in a spot of bother it works!
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I agree. I seriously cannot imagine my horses bolting on me and not stopping. Sure they'll spook and jump sideways but thats about it. I saw my old gelding bolt on a girl who didn't really know how to ride. Once he stopped I got on him, I could feel him starting to think about running off, took defensive action and it never materialized.
The pulley rein was developed for hunt horses and eventers, that travel at speed on a regular basis. It is very easy for them to get strong out in the field or on course, and in fact, it's seen as a positive thing that the horse moves forward into the bridle. However, bolting can very often happen, and the pulley rein, or some variation of lifting the head (and kicking, like IJJ said, is very helpful) is usually the most effective way to regain control.

I wouldn't want to event a horse that "hunts the stop." I can understand it for other disciplines, but really, cross-country requires a bold horse that at times, will get strong.
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When I say Hunting the Stop what that means is that the horse is hunting for my next cue. Might be the stop the lead change a rollback a turn anything. I want the horse listening to me at all times.

If you are saying that a horse can not be run and not in total control the I will disagree with that. Reining is done at speed and a well trained reiner will run full out at the end gate and stop with little to no effort from the rider. I do agree that a H/J can and dose get strong. However most of that is from lack of work and training by the rider. I shoot a lot of H/J shows and it baffles me what they will let those horses get away with.

Here is an example of a horse hunting a stop. If you type Reining into youtube you sill see a lot of horses running full out and stopping or changing speeds with little to no cuing from the rider.

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Good vid. I really like that horse for some reason too! haha.
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