[Banat]

Originally Posted by Lindsayanne

Further proof parelli is not original... at all.
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When has anyone (himself included) said he was?

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by TrailBlazer

At risk of me sounding dumb. Why would you want to?
I would prefer my Mare stand still with something around its leg or am I missing something here?

The point is to teach the horse to give to pressure on the leg. If a horse gets tangled up in some rope or wire that is pulling on and cutting the leg, would you want her to just stand there, or would you want her to pull against it, or would you want her to seek to move towards the pressure and therefore relieve it?

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by Lindsayanne

Further proof parelli is not original... at all.

Please quote Pat or Linda saying it's their idea. You can't.

[Vengeance]

Cool information.

I remembered who mentioned it to me, and it was a guy that I went with my cousins to see who bred minature horses... well, it wasn't him, but his father that mentioned it... XD.

[IIIBarsV]

Personally, I wouldn't dare try it on my little roan mare. She would drag me to the moon. (This is why I just bought her a portable electric mini-pasture, and why she's turned out with cedar rail fencing). You so much as drag a rope across the ground in front of her and she's ******** out about it.

I have done it with Gooser though. He tolerates so much from me. LOL. The tricky part is that the only place I can do it is in the riding ring. If he was on grass, he would ignore me completely. The horse loves his food.

It is not something I would recommend people doing "just because" it sounds like a good idea. You could get seriously hurt and so could the horse. There are ways to do the same thing without actually attaching a rope to your horse's pastern, such as swinging the end of a lunge whip under their belly/around the legs, throwing a leadrope around down there, and holding them around the pastern and forward with your bare hands.

A solid attachment of something such as a rope on the horse's legs is just asking for an accident.

(This is why I don't use hobbles). There are skilled people out there who can teach a horse to hobble no problem.... but I am not willing to risk it with my show horses.

[doublebarr]

LOL, It's VERY GOOD training for ANY horse, particularly one that has "issues" with something around it's legs. That is the very best time and place to teach one.

We do it because we use the horses to rope. IF, for some reason they get fouled in the rope we DON"T want them to panic. Also, it is part of hobble training.

Not only do we start with a cotton lead, we then move on to ROPING the horses legs from the ground and leading them with the rope. Teaching them to move into pressure on the legs without "fre.aking out".

Ven, this is a wonderful exercise for you to do with your boy on the ground. I'm glad to see you looking for more stuff to do with him since you are going to ease up on the riding right now.

OH and IIIBarsV - you don't start out by "attaching" the rope solidly to the leg, LOL. You just loop it around the leg leaving one "side" open by holding both ends of the cotton line. You can quickly drop the line if the horse gets scared and then just loop it back again and start over. Then, once they have it down with the cotton lead, you can switch to rope training and move up eventually to actually roping the leg and moving it. A honda releases quickly if the horse "spooks" so it will slide right off the leg.

[Vengeance]

Coolio! Dakota doesn't mind anything around any part of his body (I think I desensitized him too much, lol...)... I'm using a long cotton lead (I think it's cotton, I'm not entirely sure, I just know that it's thick, soft, and stretchy)... XD. Like I said before, I do keep a halter and another lead on him and if he acts all 'iffy' over something I ask of him, I do drop all pressure and let him calm down. I'm actually having a lot of fun doing this with him, it's interesting and he keeps amazing me by how quickly he's catch on!

[doublebarr]

Well of course he's doing well Ven. I've "watched" you and him from the moment Gypsy dropped him to today on these forums. I don't think there isn't anything you've not done with him, LOL. (How's that for an overload of positive negatives, LOLOL.)

You keep playing with him, he'll be a much better horse for it. I LOVE that my kids are constantly out there "playing" with all mine. It sure makes them a LOT less "goosy" and spooky. They've been put through the wringer, so to speak, by anything the kids can imagine to throw at them. We go to shows and the bratty kids making all the hoopla outside the arena never makes them flick an ear. Everyone else is snarking at the show managers to "please control the crowd. They're scaring our horses." Mine couldn't give a flip about the "crowd".

[Vengeance]

Well of course he's doing well Ven. I've "watched" you and him from the moment Gypsy dropped him to today on these forums. I don't think there isn't anything you've not done with him, LOL. (How's that for an overload of positive negatives, LOLOL.)

You keep playing with him, he'll be a much better horse for it. I LOVE that my kids are constantly out there "playing" with all mine. It sure makes them a LOT less "goosy" and spooky. They've been put through the wringer, so to speak, by anything the kids can imagine to throw at them. We go to shows and the bratty kids making all the hoopla outside the arena never makes them flick an ear. Everyone else is snarking at the show managers to "please control the crowd. They're scaring our horses." Mine couldn't give a flip about the "crowd".

Wow...
Lol...
I would be out there right now, but I know for a fact that it's so humid that ten minutes just walking him would have him covered in sweat and I don't want to make him (or me) miserable... XD!
But you're right, I keep messing with him and I won't be surprised if he actually makes a better horse than Gypsie is, and that's saying a lot since Gypsie is (in my eyes) the best horse I could have ever asked for... especially considering how far she's come from when I first got her. Lol.

The only thing I still have problems out of Dakota with is dogs... but we'll work through that eventually, i'm sure...

[IIIBarsV]

Doublebarr, I can see how that would be a necessity in a rope horse. lol

Luckily I'm just tin-can turning with my mare. She is actually not spooky at all to things that would even the most stoic horse snorting- just has issues with rope-like things around her front legs (she's fine with hind legs). I suspect she got caught up in something as a young horse, I'm sure it's all tied in with her pulling back, too.

If I want to rope something, I have two big stout geldings to do it.

Also, I don't tolerate my show horses spooking. There's not much that fazes them in or around the show ring.

That said, I do have a big orange plastic sled that I use to move hay around... they get quite used to things bumping them in the legs as it's no big deal, they get food out of it. lol. I find the sled has helped my little mare relax a *bit*..... but it seems to be almost specifically "rope related" with her.