Anyone know what these symptoms are?

lunabar5 · 11-15-2005, 09:17 AM

I have a 3 year old gelding, and lately he has been acting like he is going to colic, but he isnt colicing. By the time our vet gets out to the farm, hes done doing it. usually what he does is strectch his front feet way out in front of him and lean forward so his belly is close to the ground. he also lifts his lips up. when i walk him he tries to lay down, or lean on me. when he is feeling good he would never try that. i thought maybe his legs were sore from growing pains, but i dunno. i also clean his sheath( because it looks like he is trying to pee when he strecthes out) so when i clean it he is usually fine afterwards. also he does poop a lot when i walk him. he lives in a stall, but always gets out everday either rideing or out in the pasture. he is always fine the next morning, or the next hour acutally. he eats his hay and oats(with a low mixture of sweetfeed) and drinks his water. his stall has manure piles and wet holes in it. he also has a mineral block. any clue to whats going on would be greatly appreciatied. thanks

salemvot · 11-15-2005, 09:24 AM

Possible urinary tract problem, could be stones, infection partial blockage.
Could be a back problem or leg problem.

He needs a full vet check, including x-rays and blood work to pinpoint the trouble.

lunabar5 · 11-15-2005, 09:26 AM

kidney stones in a 3 year old? not very likely, and my vet has already ruled out back and leg problems, and a urinary tact infection. but thanks for the suggestions.

MissBandit · 11-15-2005, 10:55 AM

Rule out laminitis and founder first. Early symptoms can appear colic like.

Shotgun93 · 11-15-2005, 11:05 AM

Have you thought about ulcers? And just because kidney stones aren't likely in a three year old doesn't mean that he couldn't have them, or a kidney infection for that matter.

spyro1 · 11-15-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotgun93

And just because kidney stones aren't likely in a three year old doesn't mean that he couldn't have them, or a kidney infection for that matter.

I agree.
I have a girlfriend who had a 5 year old mare who had a huge entrolith (sp) and had to have it removed via surgery. The operating vet said he had never seen one that big in a horse that young.

Cntrysass20 · 11-15-2005, 02:27 PM

My first thoughts were UTI. But, since you have ruled that out, I would check and see if he has a bean that somehow migrated up (Its been known to happen). I would have X-rays for stones (kidney AND entrolith) and I would have him scoped for ulcers. Also, check for lami and founder. Other then that, I am at a loss. Age isnt that much of a factor for these things. Yes, its more common in older horses, but after I had a 3 week old sand colic, I have learned nothing is impossible. Also lost a 3 yr old mare to sand colic...she had other issues too, but nothing that was even noticed by the vet till it was too late.

Jessie

Nevada_Silk · 11-15-2005, 06:11 PM

Does he do it only when you first bring him out of the stall?

lunabar5 · 11-15-2005, 06:31 PM

he does it in his stall. usually when i find him he is lying down, so i make him get up and he starts doing that so i walk him for a about an hour and he does his strectching out stuff and then he poops some... and then hes done and i put him back in his stall and i check in on him every 1/2 hour and hes fine. im having the vet out on friday. ill see what he says, but until then i would appreciate it if u guyz kept helping me out! thanks

Nevada_Silk · 11-15-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lunabar5

he does it in his stall. usually when i find him he is lying down, so i make him get up and he starts doing that so i walk him for a about an hour and he does his strectching out stuff and then he poops some... and then hes done and i put him back in his stall and i check in on him every 1/2 hour and hes fine. im having the vet out on friday. ill see what he says, but until then i would appreciate it if u guyz kept helping me out! thanks

Turn him out more...only suggestion I could offer.

11-15-2005, 09:17 AM	#1
lunabar5 Full Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 95 Images: 10	Anyone know what these symptoms are? I have a 3 year old gelding, and lately he has been acting like he is going to colic, but he isnt colicing. By the time our vet gets out to the farm, hes done doing it. usually what he does is strectch his front feet way out in front of him and lean forward so his belly is close to the ground. he also lifts his lips up. when i walk him he tries to lay down, or lean on me. when he is feeling good he would never try that. i thought maybe his legs were sore from growing pains, but i dunno. i also clean his sheath( because it looks like he is trying to pee when he strecthes out) so when i clean it he is usually fine afterwards. also he does poop a lot when i walk him. he lives in a stall, but always gets out everday either rideing or out in the pasture. he is always fine the next morning, or the next hour acutally. he eats his hay and oats(with a low mixture of sweetfeed) and drinks his water. his stall has manure piles and wet holes in it. he also has a mineral block. any clue to whats going on would be greatly appreciatied. thanks

11-15-2005, 10:55 AM	#4
MissBandit Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 13,219 Images: 300 Blog Entries: 43	Rule out laminitis and founder first. Early symptoms can appear colic like. __________________ Founder is the #2 killer of horses. Learn how to prevent, spot and treat this deadly disease. Emergency Treatment http://www.laminitisclinic.org

11-15-2005, 11:05 AM	#5
Shotgun93 Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southwest SD Posts: 13,568 Images: 124	Have you thought about ulcers? And just because kidney stones aren't likely in a three year old doesn't mean that he couldn't have them, or a kidney infection for that matter. __________________ In the quiet light of the stable, you hear a muffled snort, the stamp of a hoof, a friendly nicker. Gentle eyes inquire, "How was your day old friend?" and suddenly, all your troubles fade away. -Author Unknown

11-15-2005, 06:11 PM	#8
Nevada_Silk Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: GA Posts: 1,143 Images: 13	Does he do it only when you first bring him out of the stall? __________________ There are only two emotions that belong in the saddle; one is a sense of humor and the other is patience ~ John Lyons Defeat: Osama, Obama, and Chelsea's Mama!

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11-15-2005, 09:24 AM	#2
salemvot Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 428 Images: 28 Blog Entries: 1	Possible urinary tract problem, could be stones, infection partial blockage. Could be a back problem or leg problem. He needs a full vet check, including x-rays and blood work to pinpoint the trouble.

11-15-2005, 09:26 AM	#3
lunabar5 Full Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 95 Images: 10	kidney stones in a 3 year old? not very likely, and my vet has already ruled out back and leg problems, and a urinary tact infection. but thanks for the suggestions.

11-15-2005, 02:27 PM	#7
Cntrysass20 Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,144 Images: 20	My first thoughts were UTI. But, since you have ruled that out, I would check and see if he has a bean that somehow migrated up (Its been known to happen). I would have X-rays for stones (kidney AND entrolith) and I would have him scoped for ulcers. Also, check for lami and founder. Other then that, I am at a loss. Age isnt that much of a factor for these things. Yes, its more common in older horses, but after I had a 3 week old sand colic, I have learned nothing is impossible. Also lost a 3 yr old mare to sand colic...she had other issues too, but nothing that was even noticed by the vet till it was too late. Jessie

11-15-2005, 06:31 PM	#9
lunabar5 Full Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 95 Images: 10	he does it in his stall. usually when i find him he is lying down, so i make him get up and he starts doing that so i walk him for a about an hour and he does his strectching out stuff and then he poops some... and then hes done and i put him back in his stall and i check in on him every 1/2 hour and hes fine. im having the vet out on friday. ill see what he says, but until then i would appreciate it if u guyz kept helping me out! thanks