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Old 05-10-2008, 09:15 PM   #61
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You know what I found is that people record pit-bull attacks, more than any other dog. Because if a pit-bull attacks its a big deal, if a lab attacks it was 'out of character' and gets ignored most of the time. I found an article proving that other breeds of dogs attack more than pitbulls...I'll try to find it.

I've met sweet pit-bulls, I've met aggressive pit-bulls.
I've met sweet labs, I've met aggressive labs.
I've met sweet Shepard, I've met aggressive ones.

I'm a firm believer that it is the individual dog and how it is raised/handled...not the breed.

That would be like trying to limit biting/bucking/rearing to one breed. Then again that does happen in the EQ world...Look at how some people pick on mustangs.
What do they say about mustangs? I very intrested in the breed!!
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I am not saying that ALL pitts will attack or ALL bird dogs will bird or that ALL herders will herd...I am saying that the LIKELIHOOD of it happening is higher IN GENERAL, because the instinct is just THERE.

I have met several vets that feed corn. Don't use them. But have met them. Have also heard of many equine nutritionists that stated some very questionable information.

I believe I heard that there are more Labs as pets on some show on Animal Planet, and another time on a website I was looking at, but I don't know if I would be able to find it again.

There aren't really breeds of horses that are more luckily to buck and such because horses have not been bred to have those specific instincts, as far as I have been aware of. I only know that stallions are more LIKELY to be aggressive than geldings, even though personality is the main factor. And, certain breeds of horses have a tendency to be hotter than others right? But, horses are horses and dogs are dogs.

But, these are just MY opinions that I will not budge on until someone has done some recent, extensive scientific and statistical studies on it. I don't care what anyone's opinion on it is, I just know what mine is.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:20 AM   #63
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poor horses!!!:[
My mare almost killed a pitt bull.

I dont like pittbulls, Mostly because I was bit by one when I was younger. All of them I have seen are really sweet, then its like something snaps in there head and they go nuts. It's really weird.

I like some pitt bulls though, just not alot.
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Old 05-11-2008, 04:33 AM   #64
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Locking jaws is a myth
Thank God that some one has finally said this, I was going to but, you what happens.
Locking jaws on a dog IS a myth, if their jaws locked the dang things would starve to death if they ever bit something then wouldn't they.
As said numerous times in this post, pitts are one of the strongest breeds, and it is possibly true that you can't easily pry their mouths open ( look at when they grab a tire or whatever and hang from them ) But when they grab onto a tire they don't hang there till they die.
And besides that when a pit attacks a something they are usually pretty torn up, that means multiple bites, not just one bite.
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Ok what about this?
I have 2 dogs under 12 pounds, they are fast, friendly and run around lots and they dont care a whit about any other dogs. They are well socialized with people, cats and other dogs. When I go to my friends place, he has a pitt female. He raised this dog and she is a great dog, she pretty much ignores my dogs after they do an initial greeting, tail wagging butt sniffing hello thing. BUT... if my dogs start running around the area real fast you can SEE her demeanor change, she begins to get excited and her tail goes up and her hackles begin to raise and she watches my dogs real carefully. Now, I know to watch for this, so all I have to do is say her name in a repremanding voice and she quits and it's done. But the facts are that if someone wasnt there to say something to her she could very well turn and bite. My question is WHY would she do this? My dogs aren't bothering her, they are usually nowhere near her. Why? Because its a prey drive instinct in a type of dog thats been bred for enhanced aggression.

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Old 05-11-2008, 05:17 AM   #66
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That's awful! I boarded at a place one time, the BO's raised appys for halter, and also were breeding huskies...they kept them locked in a kennel when when they were not home....one time the huskies got out, ran a foal down, and started to eat it...poor foal was so badly torn up, they had to put it down....they shot all 5 dogs that day....never had dogs again...

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That's awful! I boarded at a place one time, the BO's raised appys for halter, and also were breeding huskies...they kept them locked in a kennel when when they were not home....one time the huskies got out, ran a foal down, and started to eat it...poor foal was so badly torn up, they had to put it down....they shot all 5 dogs that day....never had dogs again...

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Thats right, I'm sure your friends dogs were well fed and well cared for, friendly, nice dogs. What got them going, was most likely two things... pack mentality, and prey drive. They didnt chase the foal because they were mad at it or feeling threatened by it, they did it because of prey drive. It's an instinct, it's not a learned trait it's inborn in them. Huskies are from the great white north, up there in the wilds if you have the chance to kill something and eat it, you better, because you might not get that opportunity to eat tomorrow.
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Here is another survey...just keep scrolling down to the P's...the numbers are astonoshing...
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Atta...%20Clifton.pdf
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Pitbulls can be dangerous. Any dog can. Right now, yes pit bulls are more likely to be dangferous. Why? As I said... who is breeding pit bulls right now? Pit Bulls are the popular "scary" dog to have right now. It used to be dobermans. Everyone will fight about whether or not all pits are bad dogs. Its like arguing about abortion... it will just keep going on and on.

My main thing is when people say they should be banned. Thats a lot like banning guns. The responsible owners are the only ones who get hurt by the law. The irresponsible owners will continue to own/breed/be irresponsible with pit bulls.

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The irresponsible ones giving the dogs a bad name will move on to another breed.

Yes pitbulls can cause a lot of damage, yes they were bred to bait bulls and later bred to fight. But I believe if responsible bred, and responsibly owned, they can be and are great dogs.
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Dog bite deaths and maimings US and Canada (1982-2007)

By compiling US and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2007, Animal People News determined the types of breeds most responsible for death and serious injury. The combination of pit bulls, rottweilers and wolf hybrids:
  • 77% of attacks that induce bodily harm
  • 73% of attacks to children
  • 83% of attack to adults
  • 70% of attacks that result in fatalities
  • 77% that result in maiming
Interesting fact about pit bulls:
  • Pit bulls attack adults nearly as often as they attack children, a characteristic not found in any other breed.
Read study highlights » Dog bite fatalites in the US (1979-1998)

Researchers reviewed a 20-year period from 1979 to 1998 to determine the types of breeds most responsible for US dog bite fatalities.
  • At least 25 breeds of dogs were involved in 238 human dog bite related fatalities during this time span. Pit bulls and rottweilers were involved in over half of these fatalities and from 1997-1998, over 60%.
  • Researchers note that it is extremely unlikely that pit bulls and rottweilers accounted for 60% of dogs in US households during this period thus, there appeared to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities.
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