[tbtrainer]

Originally Posted by BornToRide

Pitbulls arnt that big of a dog to start off with.. and.. there are many more powerful dogs out there. Yeah pitbulls have a locking jaw.. BUT they are still not the most powerful.

They are powerful enough to take down a full grown man, and a full grown horse...

[BornToRide]

Originally Posted by tbtrainer

I totally disagree, family raised dogs have killed people...We personally know someone that was attacked by his Pit, and he had lovingly raised this dog from a puppy.

How do you know what happens with this dog when people are not there? do you know there every mood.. there are some dogs. you smack them and they defend themselves..

[BornToRide]

Originally Posted by tbtrainer

They are powerful enough to take down a full grown man, and a full grown horse...

I never said they wernt powerful. I said there are more powerful dogs.

[Berlunz]

the problem with pitbulls is their instinct is greater than other breeds and lots of times they are bred specifically for fighting. Then good doers "rescue" these puppies and breed them with others and then the instinct is in that litter. Its hard to keep the breed from getting contaminated. You cant always keep the fighters separate from the backyard babies. Even the fighting dogs you see are extremely sweet and loving to humans. But something can happen to make them snap.

Yes other breeds have this issue too. ANY breed can have this issue when it gets too popular and people start breeding just to breed so they can sell the puppies for money. But then its the breeders fault and the buyers fault since they buy from puppy mills or just buy cheap puppies without looking at the parents really. I have seen lots of chihuahua's who are just down right vicious and yes they dont make the news because they are too small to cause much damage.

Dalmatians are a good example. After 101 dalmations their numbers BOOMED literally. Then there was the article about the boy who had his ear bitten off and their numbers dropped. I have met several dalmations, some were nasty, others, sweet as could be.

To be honest with you Rottweilers get a bad rep too as mean dogs. They are banned in some cities around her as well as pits. But I have known several rotties who are like big toddlers. Dobermans get a bad rep but I have yet to meet a single mean Doberman. Not saying they are not out there, but all the ones I have met would rather crawl in my lap and lick my face than bite me... but it doesnt mean there are not ones out there who cannot do things.

BTW pitbulls are one of the most powerful breeds out there that is WHY they are bred for fighting. They have the ability to basically ignore pain until they collapse, lock their jaw and are basically a giant muscle. There are other breeds that are bigger but few are more powerful than a pitbull.

[HUS_WP_lovr]

Originally Posted by BornToRide

I never said they wernt powerful. I said there are more powerful dogs.

Just wondering, do you mean indivdual dogs or a breed? If a breed, which one????

[tbtrainer]

Originally Posted by BornToRide

How do you know what happens with this dog when people are not there? do you know there every mood.. there are some dogs. you smack them and they defend themselves..

His owner had just walked into the house...and if I had to worry about my dogs "mood" and whether or not he was going to attack me or not, he would not be living in MY house.

[BornToRide]

Originally Posted by Berlunz

the problem with pitbulls is their instinct is greater than other breeds and lots of times they are bred specifically for fighting. Then good doers "rescue" these puppies and breed them with others and then the instinct is in that litter. Its hard to keep the breed from getting contaminated. You cant always keep the fighters separate from the backyard babies. Even the fighting dogs you see are extremely sweet and loving to humans. But something can happen to make them snap.

Yes other breeds have this issue too. ANY breed can have this issue when it gets too popular and people start breeding just to breed so they can sell the puppies for money. But then its the breeders fault and the buyers fault since they buy from puppy mills or just buy cheap puppies without looking at the parents really. I have seen lots of chihuahua's who are just down right vicious and yes they dont make the news because they are too small to cause much damage.

Dalmatians are a good example. After 101 dalmations their numbers BOOMED literally. Then there was the article about the boy who had his ear bitten off and their numbers dropped. I have met several dalmations, some were nasty, others, sweet as could be.

To be honest with you Rottweilers get a bad rep too as mean dogs. They are banned in some cities around her as well as pits. But I have known several rotties who are like big toddlers. Dobermans get a bad rep but I have yet to meet a single mean Doberman. Not saying they are not out there, but all the ones I have met would rather crawl in my lap and lick my face than bite me...

So its not the breeders fault when you get a litter of mean pitbulls?

[BornToRide]

Originally Posted by tbtrainer

His owner had just walked into the house...and if I had to worry about my dogs "mood" and whether or not he was going to attack me or not, he would not be living in MY house.

Every move** sorry was a typo and i meant the guys every move.. what happens when no one is there.. how he treats his dog

[tbtrainer]

Originally Posted by BornToRide

Every move** sorry was a typo and i meant the guys every move.. what happens when no one is there.. how he treats his dog

Believe me, we know this guy, he is NOT a dog abuser...that is absurd to even try and blame the owner...are you also going to blame every other person/dog/horse that was attacked by a pit?

[gigga]

Originally Posted by BornToRide

Yes i do.. All this bull is just posted everywhere when its a pit bull.. there was a golden retriver that attack and killed 3 kids in winnipeg.. did you hear about that? nope.

Up here there was a husky that attack and killed 5 small dogs and 3 children.. did you hear about that?



there was a pomerainian ( sp ) in sault saint marie that killed a baby,.. you hear about that?

Aggressive dogs are found among any breed or crossbreed;
and Breed specific legislation and breed bans are not effective solutions to the problem of dog attacks; and The problem of dog attacks is best dealt with through a comprehensive program of education, training and legislation encouraging responsible ownership of all breeds;

lol.. you saw 5 dogs and 3 kids killed, and a dog of a friends of ours killed 3 kids? sorry I find that hard to believe.. I was a victem of a dog attack when I was 4 or 5 and not by a pit bull but I still think pitt bulls are more dangerous than most breeds, even more than a german shepard (how have a rep of attacking ppl and are not recommended to be in a home with children) I was attact by a German Sheperd and all it took for her to stop was my mothers scream and she went flying to the corner crying.