Discuss Amish Horses Standing Tied at the Horse Training forum - Horse Forums. What a great picture.
The poster above said it well- they are not pets, they ...
What a great picture.
The poster above said it well- they are not pets, they work for a living. But above and beyond that they get USED. They may go into their stall at the end of the day tired and sore, but they have been driven miles and expected to do real things. I love it.
Originally Posted by John
I think it is more a matter that there area different rules for trainers.
If a typical pleasure-horse owner is trying to teach a horse to tie, the owner has much less experience in dealing with horses than the Amish. Heck, even time in dealing with the ONE horse, I'm sure the Amish spend way more time on it than a pleasure horse owner does.
Think about it. The Amish work their horses daily. They keep them at home, not in a boarding stable. They feed them, they groom them, they put them to work. 60 days to an Amish horse would likely be the equivalent of 120 days of training anywhere else except, maybe, a working ranch. Those horses rarely get a day off. That's not to say they are worked abusively (tho I have heard some are)... but hey, horses do best with consistent work. Keep to a routine, and your horse will settle to his work and learn faster.
Personally, I'd rather the pleasure-horse owner use alternative techniques like the Blocker ring. Then, if they still have a horse that won't stand tied, a professional trainer can be called in.
And yes, I do believe it should be the goal that all horses should be able to be tied hard and fast, and to tie on a picket or high-line.
If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. -Abraham Maslow
Originally Posted by Chester
It wouldn't surprise me if some of them weren't even tied up at all. That is just great, very cool pictures, definately a parking lot i wouldn't mind seeing more often!!
Decided to update my siggy and while I was trying to figure out how to get rid of the little smiley face, I forgot what it was I had in mind to put here............
Where do you live that it's green?
I've had snow for ... 6ish weeks?
I think it's about 2 feet deep outside now...
totally off topic I know. But the first thing that grabbed my attention was the lack of snow.
Originally Posted by Banat
Did you not see the little snow left in the ditch in front of the horses? Our grass stays green under the snow for quite a while here in Missouri, which is why we can stockpile grassland for grazing for quite a while in the winter as long as we don't have snow or ice cover. However, that is ending tonight. It started sleeting at 10pm and were in for a storm through Christmas day.
Originally Posted by Banat
Many of our shows we commute to that are within 2.5 hour drive we will save money by not getting stalls. I know and expect our horses to stand quietly tied all day long if need be QUIETLY to the trailer(of course we make sure they are comfortable).
At home after they are taught to tie early in their training I still sporadically bring them in and leave them tied 4 or 5 hours . . .most of our horses can be left like that without supervision--others we still supervise. I also teach our horses to ground tie, something that in modern horsemanship has been forgotten. It comes in handy in a number of situations, ecspecially on the trail if I have to get down and move debris off the trail or fix a crosscountry jump . . .who wants to run after their horse who has wandered off to munch grass in a feild.
This also ^^^. Our working horses all learn when one rein is dropped, they are not to move. As well as being able to tie hard and fast with the reins. We also tie to the rope when doctoring a calf in the pasture, which is where both ground and solid tying come together.
Originally Posted by ccmso12
Great thread and thanks for posting!
I also absolutely agree with what has been said.
I believe that as soon as a foal is accustomed to the halter- he can learn to be tied.
I try my very best to treat my horses like they have full time 'jobs' and they are not just for my riding pleasure. Practicality is very important to me. IMO- EVERY horse is capable of standing tied for even longs periods of time safely, remaining 'sane' by busy roads, and even ground tie, etc. However, it is all dependent on the kind of horsemanship they receive... the relationship they have with man, their trainer, owner, rider, etc. and the approach taken to teach them such things.
Sometimes I will bring two horses in- tie one up in the aisle, tack up the other and go riding leaving the tied one alone. Even if I wind up not working or riding the formerly tied horse- he had a job today, and it was to stand tied. In the event that I DO wind up doing something else with him- I find that having had a moment to himself, to nap, chill, whatever, seems to put him into an excellent mindset of being focused and ready to work.
We are on the horse as we are in life.
Agreed! My old trainer used to tie all the horses to baling twine, and (as a result, i think) she constantly had trouble with them pulling back. When the horses don't even see that as an option, they generally learn very easily to stand well!
The Amish use a lot of Standardbreds for their buggy horses. Standardbreds that they get are usually already broke to death from being trained as harness horses so, they will stand tied wherever you want them to already.
I trained Standardbreds on the track and now I train horse to pull carts for private owners. The thing I stress is that the horse NOT think that when he's hooked it's for the purpose of 'GOING" then going home and being unhooked right off the bat. I drive them a short distance then stop them, ask them to stand, put the lines up on the water hook and just hang out. They should stand around way more than they actually move. That makes a good broke pleasure driving horse when you can stop anywhere at any time and just stand around.
[QUOTE=Outrider;7441522]In this day and age we have WAY too many people, WAY too sensitive about WAY too many things and taking something that only deserves a "ho hum" response as a slight against themselves personally. [/QUOTE]
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