All About the Tap

thistlecreek1 · 01-02-2006, 10:16 PM

i think i will try this wit my mare

what should this do for a horse with arthritis? shouldn't it offer temporary pain relief?

Endorphins4u2 · 01-02-2006, 11:38 PM

Hi, I don't think this method would do you much good because it is a quick fix and you could only make your horse sleepy for around half an hour when the horse is probably in pain 24hrs, however there alternative methods that can help your horse get through day a bit better like these herbal products..

http://www.meadowherbs.com/articleolderhorse.htm

Also, there are a lot of other helpful sites around the net if you are still concerned about helping your horse..

I'm sorry I couldn't you help you in this case..

Good luck..

Chester · 01-03-2006, 02:16 AM

(wearing trusty flak jacket)

I have followed this with interest but stayed out. I seem to be able to generate enough controversy on my own without buying into someone elses thread.

To the disbelievers of this, have you tried it? Can it be worse than the tie downs used from the good old martingale and beyond? Is it worse than having the vet come and give a sedative to do things like clip a horse? Please don't try to tell me this doesn't happen.

If it is a natural way will it hurt us or our horses to try it. Do we knock the people incorporating herbs into their horses diet because there is not enough scientific research to back the claims?

I know enough to know I don,t know anything! I will keep an open mind on whether this method works, reading through various replies it seems to be working to a degree for some of the more open minded. I will give it a go. I don,t know but if it works on my horses it may save them when I am miles from a vet and no handy knockout drugs are available.

kanashibari · 01-03-2006, 05:06 AM

Not only have I been following this, I have had the privilege of seeing ED4U2 do the "Tap" in person.

I read some people have done or seen something similar but it was still a myth not even vets had an answer for..

I think ED4U2 has nearly perfected this into a technique just about anybody can do...

I was always taught to give credit where credit was due, and I think this is one of those times....

littlecelticpony · 01-03-2006, 07:23 AM

Okay.
I've been hiding something from you guys.

Some of you remember my old horse, Kayle.
He wasn't exactly an "orthodox" Thoroughbred. He was pretty unconventional, and threw a lot of curveballs.

Well.

No one knew it, but he was addicted.
To his own endorphins.

As you can see by the photo, there's zero rein contact. He just turned his head on his own, after he figured out how awesome the endorphin rush was.

Two seconds after this photo was taken, he was on the ground.

[Disclaimer: I'm not being at all serious. It's true that Kayle liked to turn his head and hold it there for several seconds at a time, but he never hit the ground or anything like that.]

[Disclaimer, part deux: I'm also not trying to bash anyone here, as I do believe [[as I've said before]] that this is a valid method as far as the mechanics go. I just found this photo the other day and this thread was the first thing I thought of...]

horsegent · 01-03-2006, 07:33 AM

and I've a youngster that likes to turn right round and play with the toes of my boots if I stop to undo a gate! Fortunately he never fell over either

He's the most agile horse I know though. I think he's trying to get his head up his backside in this photo!

Fox Glove · 01-03-2006, 07:52 AM

Looks like the latest dance craze here in the States..

Paula

horsegent · 01-03-2006, 08:21 AM

He's a comic of a horse! This is him facing up to a scarey bollard - like a dog does - and just before he ran and picked it up and took off up the field with it. Probably also like another latest dance craze

Moostang · 01-03-2006, 08:34 AM

Lets try to keep this on topic, I don't want to have to go through and delete posts.

horsegent · 01-03-2006, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moostang

Lets try to keep this on topic, I don't want to have to go through and delete posts.

Don't worry I've deleted my own. Having said that I hadn't the faintest idea what topic this was about at all from the first posting?

Censored locked postings?
Seabiscuit?
Riding young t/b's?
Dangers of smoking?
Dangers of radiation?
Trying to sell the unproven and untested?
Seeking a marketing opportunity?

No-where can I see any clarity about what the subject was actually about? And I'm blowed if I know how it got to release of endomorphines??

01-02-2006, 10:16 PM	#281
thistlecreek1 Full Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: illinois Posts: 113 Images: 1	i think i will try this wit my mare what should this do for a horse with arthritis? shouldn't it offer temporary pain relief? __________________ ~michelle~

01-03-2006, 02:16 AM	#283
Chester Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: inland of the coral sea Posts: 9,529 Images: 760	(wearing trusty flak jacket) I have followed this with interest but stayed out. I seem to be able to generate enough controversy on my own without buying into someone elses thread. To the disbelievers of this, have you tried it? Can it be worse than the tie downs used from the good old martingale and beyond? Is it worse than having the vet come and give a sedative to do things like clip a horse? Please don't try to tell me this doesn't happen. If it is a natural way will it hurt us or our horses to try it. Do we knock the people incorporating herbs into their horses diet because there is not enough scientific research to back the claims? I know enough to know I don,t know anything! I will keep an open mind on whether this method works, reading through various replies it seems to be working to a degree for some of the more open minded. I will give it a go. I don,t know but if it works on my horses it may save them when I am miles from a vet and no handy knockout drugs are available. __________________ Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI "We're all members of the outback club, we don't back down and we don't give up" Lee Kernaghan "Good friends are worth more than money any day" Adam Brand Is it full moon time again? Did the cereal truck overturn and fruitloops got spilt?

01-03-2006, 07:23 AM	#285
littlecelticpony Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Divide my time between NJ, NY, and CO. Posts: 3,984 Images: 72	Okay. I've been hiding something from you guys. Some of you remember my old horse, Kayle. He wasn't exactly an "orthodox" Thoroughbred. He was pretty unconventional, and threw a lot of curveballs. Well. No one knew it, but he was addicted. To his own endorphins. As you can see by the photo, there's zero rein contact. He just turned his head on his own, after he figured out how awesome the endorphin rush was. Two seconds after this photo was taken, he was on the ground. [Disclaimer: I'm not being at all serious. It's true that Kayle liked to turn his head and hold it there for several seconds at a time, but he never hit the ground or anything like that.] [Disclaimer, part deux: I'm also not trying to bash anyone here, as I do believe [[as I've said before]] that this is a valid method as far as the mechanics go. I just found this photo the other day and this thread was the first thing I thought of...] __________________ The one and only LCP When all is lost...all is left to gain. Do not go gentle into that good night...

01-03-2006, 08:34 AM	#289
Moostang Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Calif Posts: 9,804 Images: 680 Blog Entries: 55	Lets try to keep this on topic, I don't want to have to go through and delete posts. __________________ Don't poke bears... give them honey! http://moostangproductions.com

01-02-2006, 11:38 PM	#282
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 712 Images: 170	Hi, I don't think this method would do you much good because it is a quick fix and you could only make your horse sleepy for around half an hour when the horse is probably in pain 24hrs, however there alternative methods that can help your horse get through day a bit better like these herbal products.. http://www.meadowherbs.com/articleolderhorse.htm Also, there are a lot of other helpful sites around the net if you are still concerned about helping your horse.. I'm sorry I couldn't you help you in this case.. Good luck..

01-03-2006, 05:06 AM	#284
kanashibari Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 14	Not only have I been following this, I have had the privilege of seeing ED4U2 do the "Tap" in person. I read some people have done or seen something similar but it was still a myth not even vets had an answer for.. I think ED4U2 has nearly perfected this into a technique just about anybody can do... I was always taught to give credit where credit was due, and I think this is one of those times....

01-03-2006, 07:33 AM	#286
horsegent Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 696	and I've a youngster that likes to turn right round and play with the toes of my boots if I stop to undo a gate! Fortunately he never fell over either He's the most agile horse I know though. I think he's trying to get his head up his backside in this photo!

01-03-2006, 07:52 AM	#287
Fox Glove Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Horse Country Posts: 5,500 Images: 68 Blog Entries: 16	Looks like the latest dance craze here in the States.. Paula

01-03-2006, 08:21 AM	#288
horsegent Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 696	He's a comic of a horse! This is him facing up to a scarey bollard - like a dog does - and just before he ran and picked it up and took off up the field with it. Probably also like another latest dance craze