All About the Tap

Endorphins4u2 · 12-27-2005, 08:28 PM

I love trust...but horses can chuck little spaz attacks over something little..

Endorphins4u2 · 12-27-2005, 10:22 PM

I'm so proud of some of the horse people here for trying something new, the "Half-tap" is all you'll ever need..becuase once they spread their front legs to balance better, you have a window of about 45min for quiet horses which is 3 times longer you could use a twitch for. The not so quiet one's can lie down anytime, and then you have them too..they just sit there and you should sit there with them or on them or whatever..

Good luck.....

freedom32 · 12-28-2005, 05:13 AM

Well I tried the half tap this morning. My filly has something in her ear, and its bothering her. She is normally good about having her ears handled, but is really fussing about this one, and 'hey let mom stick her fingers in there' is not going over well. I think I may have gotten the culprit, but want a better look. She fought the tap, but was already pretty worked up, so I let her go for the moment, I will try it later on when she isn't so suspicious of me and my motives............if this works it may help me avoid having her sedated, which will make it a very valuable trick to have up my sleeve.

Endorphins4u2 · 12-28-2005, 05:23 AM

Ok, when you turn her head around, wait about 30 secs that'll zonk her..

Then insert slowerly...( "finger", moostang...behave)

BOE · 12-29-2005, 05:43 AM

I tried that yesterday on my Arab. He is lazy to begin with. I used just rope halter since he is good with lateral flexion. I hold his head about 4-5 min to the right. It is hard to say, I think he hot a little heavier, but he is so lazy to begin with. He did not go down. Afterwards he was for 20 min a little slower. But as I said, he is lazy. How long should I hold his head and why he did not go down?

Endorphins4u2 · 12-29-2005, 12:59 PM

Hi, 5 mins is more than enough if you can keep the horses front legs closer together or shift some weight on to one leg by pushing on the shoulder if the head is turned to the near-side or pulling the weight onthe to near-side leg if the head is turn to the off-side, if the head is turned to the off-side , you should be standing at the near-side shoulder, this is the easiest way to do it.

Also, did you notice your horse was standing with his front legs apart ? When this happens they are conserving energy and can stand like that long time...turn the head and if you can work on their front legs by pushing or pulling, it's just practice..

This is 100% effective, if you have to contact me everytime for tips, I will be here..

A lot of people have now mastered the "Half-tap" which the horse standing but very sleepy, they are bombproof like that and you can do this whenever you choose now..

Congrtaulations you can use this to help other people when they need a hand too..

When I get a chance I will make another video showing how to shift the horse's weight better ok..

Good Luck..

Feliche · 12-29-2005, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Trained to race as long yearlings... and usually lame by their 5th birthday. Correlated? yeah.

Well, my horse is an OTTB who is fourteen years old. He is quite sound, I am happy to say

even though his leg was injured (by an accident that had nothing to do with racing or training--he tried to jump a fence to get to a mare and...missed). My horse was trained as a yearling, and while I personally believe a horse should have more than a year to get used to being alive, I STILL think we should have treated this person with more respect.

Xenophon had new ideas about riding horses too. Now there is an entire discepline called DRESSAGE. I don't think that we should have treated him so unkindly--we are giving ourselves a bad name. JMO.

--Megan

Oh--and Endorphins4u-- "K" is kind of a quick way to say "okay".

Just wanted to clear tha up.

Feliche · 12-29-2005, 05:53 PM

I have just read a few pages back...I say "Huzza!!" to Endorphins4u. He's trying to be nice by sharing this with us, and at first we were rude to him. This sounds like and EXCELLENT training meathod--better than a twitch, which can be applied incorrectly...this is a brilliant new breakthrough and I will probably use it from now on. Endorphins4u--I salute you!!

--Megan

Endorphins4u2 · 12-29-2005, 06:09 PM

I'll say "K" to that..

We just call them all yearlings because even though that are born days and months apart, they all turn 2 y.o on the same day here..

It's just how I classify them..(their not weanlings and their not 2 yet)

lucky_pine · 12-29-2005, 06:20 PM

Well, I believe I can call myself the first to master the full tap. I had to take pictures as soon as he laid down, as he pretty much went down on his own free will. I don't have pictures of me actually doing the tap, because I was alone and dont have 3 hands. I used no halter, no bridle, no restraint. He let me turn his head and pretty much held it there for me, and I ust rocked him back and forth until I saw him start to bend his front legs. Then I let him go and he laid down.
Let me crop my pictures, and I'll add them.

12-28-2005, 05:13 AM	#253
freedom32 Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Capital of the Steeler Nation--PITTSBURGH Posts: 8,049 Images: 429 Blog Entries: 144	Well I tried the half tap this morning. My filly has something in her ear, and its bothering her. She is normally good about having her ears handled, but is really fussing about this one, and 'hey let mom stick her fingers in there' is not going over well. I think I may have gotten the culprit, but want a better look. She fought the tap, but was already pretty worked up, so I let her go for the moment, I will try it later on when she isn't so suspicious of me and my motives............if this works it may help me avoid having her sedated, which will make it a very valuable trick to have up my sleeve. __________________ Pittsburgh gals bleed black & gold ~originally posted by JBandRio~ she's out there grazing and pooping and napping and biting her buddy's butt

12-27-2005, 08:28 PM	#251
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	I love trust...but horses can chuck little spaz attacks over something little..

12-27-2005, 10:22 PM	#252
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	I'm so proud of some of the horse people here for trying something new, the "Half-tap" is all you'll ever need..becuase once they spread their front legs to balance better, you have a window of about 45min for quiet horses which is 3 times longer you could use a twitch for. The not so quiet one's can lie down anytime, and then you have them too..they just sit there and you should sit there with them or on them or whatever.. Good luck.....

12-28-2005, 05:23 AM	#254
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	Ok, when you turn her head around, wait about 30 secs that'll zonk her.. Then insert slowerly...( "finger", moostang...behave)

12-29-2005, 05:43 AM	#255
BOE Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 551	I tried that yesterday on my Arab. He is lazy to begin with. I used just rope halter since he is good with lateral flexion. I hold his head about 4-5 min to the right. It is hard to say, I think he hot a little heavier, but he is so lazy to begin with. He did not go down. Afterwards he was for 20 min a little slower. But as I said, he is lazy. How long should I hold his head and why he did not go down?

12-29-2005, 12:59 PM	#256
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	Hi, 5 mins is more than enough if you can keep the horses front legs closer together or shift some weight on to one leg by pushing on the shoulder if the head is turned to the near-side or pulling the weight onthe to near-side leg if the head is turn to the off-side, if the head is turned to the off-side , you should be standing at the near-side shoulder, this is the easiest way to do it. Also, did you notice your horse was standing with his front legs apart ? When this happens they are conserving energy and can stand like that long time...turn the head and if you can work on their front legs by pushing or pulling, it's just practice.. This is 100% effective, if you have to contact me everytime for tips, I will be here.. A lot of people have now mastered the "Half-tap" which the horse standing but very sleepy, they are bombproof like that and you can do this whenever you choose now.. Congrtaulations you can use this to help other people when they need a hand too.. When I get a chance I will make another video showing how to shift the horse's weight better ok.. Good Luck..

12-29-2005, 06:09 PM	#259
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	I'll say "K" to that.. We just call them all yearlings because even though that are born days and months apart, they all turn 2 y.o on the same day here.. It's just how I classify them..(their not weanlings and their not 2 yet)

12-29-2005, 06:20 PM	#260
lucky_pine Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,628 Images: 639 Blog Entries: 14	Well, I believe I can call myself the first to master the full tap. I had to take pictures as soon as he laid down, as he pretty much went down on his own free will. I don't have pictures of me actually doing the tap, because I was alone and dont have 3 hands. I used no halter, no bridle, no restraint. He let me turn his head and pretty much held it there for me, and I ust rocked him back and forth until I saw him start to bend his front legs. Then I let him go and he laid down. Let me crop my pictures, and I'll add them.