All About the Tap

Endorphins4u2 · 12-27-2005, 05:13 PM

HELP........... , I really have turned into a "FRUITCAKE"

Is "k" like a cowbell thing ??

Dancinglite · 12-27-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Endorphins4u2

HELP........... , I really have turned into a "FRUITCAKE"

Is "k" like a cowbell thing ??

Fruitcake...yummy...esp with nuts!

I tried your "tap" on my boy. Well he is so laid back that it is hard to tell if there is any difference. i tried in halter and bit...no change. A mare whinnied and that ended any future hope that moment and when all was silent he just stood there looking a little perplexed and lazy...which is the way he always looks....LOL

lucky_pine · 12-27-2005, 06:22 PM

Well, Borntoride, I hopped on Scoot bareback today and he was fine. No buck, no flinch nothing. Sure glad I tapped him first so I didn't have to be thrown and break my neck first.

Endorphins4u2 · 12-27-2005, 06:31 PM

Quiet horses take the longest because it makes them quieter.....

With nuts ??.... you won't have to go far to find them, there are plenty here already.....

I almost feel homesick..

SweetSavannah · 12-27-2005, 07:08 PM

hey i just used the "half tap" today and it worked great!

i just got my mare shod and whenever she gets shod i worm her the same day so i dont forget and miss a week or something. anyway...

so i walk up with the worming paste. *all is fine* i go and pat her with the worming paste in my hand *all is fine* i halter her and bring her to the hitching rail *all is fine* i go to stick the worming paste tube in the corner of her mouth *

EXPLOSIONS!!!

*

i try to calm her down and try again but she flips out, throws her head around and starts jumping backwards and spinning away from me. she almost goes backwards through her yard fence. i am still trying to hang onto the halter and at the same time put the tube in her mouth. every time she feels the tube she freaks out again.

so i get my friend there Nikki to hold the tube while i calm her down. without missing a beat i pull her head towards me until its almost touching her shoulder. i hold it there for a while and her eyes start to glaze a little bit.

"What ARE you doing?" asks Nikki who has just walked in and witnessed the whole fiasco. "You'll see." i say. "Now can you hand me the worming paste?" Nikki hands me the paste and stands way back from the yard.

i get the tube and stick it in the corner of her mouth and squirt the worming paste into the back of her mouth. my horse barely blinks at this process. afterward i release the tap and continue to stroke her face and rub her all over as a reward.

"Whoa... what was THAT?" asks Nikki.
"THAT was the endorphin tap!" i tell her with a smile. my horse is happily nuzzling me for treats and she is safe from worms for another 8 weeks. she hasnt trodden on herself, hurt herself, or hurt me in the process. pretty soon i wont need the tap, but for now i'm glad to know its there when i DO need it.

Friesiangirl · 12-27-2005, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dancinglite

Fruitcake...yummy...esp with nuts!

that sounds WRONG

LMAO

BornToRide · 12-27-2005, 08:16 PM

ok i can kinda see how it would do some good for diffrent things. but another point i am trying to make its that if you have a strong bond with your horses you should not need to use it/ but thinking about it i can see how you might use it for well such as above deworming or maybe on a horse that was badly abused and may need a calm down fast before injurying themselves ? am i right or wrong ?

Friesiangirl · 12-27-2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BornToRide

ok i can kinda see how it would do some good for diffrent things. but another point i am trying to make its that if you have a strong bond with your horses you should not need to use it/ but thinking about it i can see how you might use it for well such as above deworming or maybe on a horse that was badly abused and may need a calm down fast before injurying themselves ? am i right or wrong ?

you are correct, with sharing the bond, a strong bond, ahorse that trusts you will lay down in your company, but that same horse may not STAND for you to worm him, he may even rear up while attempting, so you would use the tap.

I, am using the tap to teach gracie i am no harm to her, when she's vulnerable, i pet her, and talk softly, it just sets up the scnario as where i'd walk up to her in her stall while she's laying down.

I totaly understand where you are coming from, and to some points i agree, but i am open to all kinds of methods

Endorphins4u2 · 12-27-2005, 08:23 PM

Yes, thank you ..God, Alla, Budah, Abraham all of you up there... (no offence)

Anyway, like you said once they get over their silly little phobia, you don't need the "Tap" , it's just like riding a bike, once you get up and going, your fine...

The "full-tap" is the same for the one's that don't go all the way down, once they are down and they realise sitting there is easier then trying to stand so eventually they just lie down themselves..

Every horse is different so just play with this until you find an easy way for you and your horse, some sensitive ones literally fall over as soon as you turn there heads..

Thank you Sweet Savannah...

BornToRide · 12-27-2005, 08:24 PM

ok i read all the post but i wouldnt use it on my horses for sure. but i can see where you guys are coming from now.i can see this working for a horse thAt maybe wouldnt stand for a vet or something like that

and i wish to appoligize to everyone for getting a little defensive! expecially to Endorphins4u2 very sorry everyone!

12-27-2005, 07:08 PM	#245
SweetSavannah Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: on my horse in Sydney, Australia Posts: 920	hey i just used the "half tap" today and it worked great! i just got my mare shod and whenever she gets shod i worm her the same day so i dont forget and miss a week or something. anyway... so i walk up with the worming paste. all is fine i go and pat her with the worming paste in my hand all is fine i halter her and bring her to the hitching rail all is fine i go to stick the worming paste tube in the corner of her mouth * EXPLOSIONS!!! * i try to calm her down and try again but she flips out, throws her head around and starts jumping backwards and spinning away from me. she almost goes backwards through her yard fence. i am still trying to hang onto the halter and at the same time put the tube in her mouth. every time she feels the tube she freaks out again. so i get my friend there Nikki to hold the tube while i calm her down. without missing a beat i pull her head towards me until its almost touching her shoulder. i hold it there for a while and her eyes start to glaze a little bit. "What ARE you doing?" asks Nikki who has just walked in and witnessed the whole fiasco. "You'll see." i say. "Now can you hand me the worming paste?" Nikki hands me the paste and stands way back from the yard. i get the tube and stick it in the corner of her mouth and squirt the worming paste into the back of her mouth. my horse barely blinks at this process. afterward i release the tap and continue to stroke her face and rub her all over as a reward. "Whoa... what was THAT?" asks Nikki. "THAT was the endorphin tap!" i tell her with a smile. my horse is happily nuzzling me for treats and she is safe from worms for another 8 weeks. she hasnt trodden on herself, hurt herself, or hurt me in the process. pretty soon i wont need the tap, but for now i'm glad to know its there when i DO need it. __________________ "REAL* ladies do it SIDEWAYS!"* http://www.sidesaddleaustralia.com.au/

12-27-2005, 08:16 PM	#247
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,009 Images: 192	ok i can kinda see how it would do some good for diffrent things. but another point i am trying to make its that if you have a strong bond with your horses you should not need to use it/ but thinking about it i can see how you might use it for well such as above deworming or maybe on a horse that was badly abused and may need a calm down fast before injurying themselves ? am i right or wrong ? __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

12-27-2005, 08:24 PM	#250
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,009 Images: 192	ok i read all the post but i wouldnt use it on my horses for sure. but i can see where you guys are coming from now.i can see this working for a horse thAt maybe wouldnt stand for a vet or something like that and i wish to appoligize to everyone for getting a little defensive! expecially to Endorphins4u2 very sorry everyone! __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

12-27-2005, 05:13 PM	#241
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 708 Images: 170	HELP........... , I really have turned into a "FRUITCAKE" Is "k" like a cowbell thing ??

12-27-2005, 06:22 PM	#243
lucky_pine Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,628 Images: 639 Blog Entries: 14	Well, Borntoride, I hopped on Scoot bareback today and he was fine. No buck, no flinch nothing. Sure glad I tapped him first so I didn't have to be thrown and break my neck first.

12-27-2005, 06:31 PM	#244
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 708 Images: 170	Quiet horses take the longest because it makes them quieter..... With nuts ??.... you won't have to go far to find them, there are plenty here already..... I almost feel homesick..

12-27-2005, 08:23 PM	#249
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 708 Images: 170	Yes, thank you ..God, Alla, Budah, Abraham all of you up there... (no offence) Anyway, like you said once they get over their silly little phobia, you don't need the "Tap" , it's just like riding a bike, once you get up and going, your fine... The "full-tap" is the same for the one's that don't go all the way down, once they are down and they realise sitting there is easier then trying to stand so eventually they just lie down themselves.. Every horse is different so just play with this until you find an easy way for you and your horse, some sensitive ones literally fall over as soon as you turn there heads.. Thank you Sweet Savannah...