All About the Tap

MissBandit · 12-17-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsayanne

Trained to race as long yearlings... and usually lame by their 5th birthday. Correlated? yeah.

Not necessarily true. I don't think this member is attempting to force feed us that this method/product (not sure exactly what it is yet) is meant to be used on all "yearlings".We know racehorses are broken in at 18 months, not exactly something that is new news here.I'd rather see this thread be kept on topic, about the training method, not debates as to whether or not racing TB's should be started as yearlings.

MissBandit · 12-17-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Step

If this process was working successfully with 7 year old Mustangs, the acceptance here might be easier to relate to.

Is it? We haven't given the guy a chance to tell us yet.I'd be curious to know...
btw, Super Step. I posted before I saw you had been here.

arabianlover · 12-17-2005, 08:02 AM

well, I tried it again with ruby but this time in the nylon halter, and I got it alot farther, she started to get weak in the knees. but I got impatient and let her head go. SO really I think this works. And on his website he has a vidio of him doing it, its PRETTY cool. Its like a safe method to simmer your horse down for a bit. Or just to get it calm enough for bitting or saddleing it!!

Mariah

oh, and dont thoroghbreds grow and develop quicker than most horses. And we should not be so mean just becasue he trains thoroghbreds in the usual fashon. Arnt their any other thoroghbred racers on here?

BornToRide · 12-17-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BuddyPalAmiga

Gosh, you sound upset that we aren't all lining up to by your product as fast as you can produce it. Why is that? I personally will not buy anything until I have seen it proven, and a quick trip to someone else's farm ONE time to see if it works is not proof enough for me. I want to see long term results before I spend my hard-earned money. You coming on the forum and acting all 'high and mighty' will get you no where here or anywhere else for that matter. If you want to sell this product, finish the research and then promote it - actually you should hire a PR person to market it for you until you can come down of your 'high horse'.
BTW, you got slammed because of your c*o*c*k*y attitude. If you tone it down, people will be more apt to listen to your opinion

Also, don't insult our intelligence by giving us the 'martyr act'. I just hate it when people try to use guilt to get what they want, so please grow up!
Beth

to totally agree with you.. and how is a horse going to learn by drugging them ??i mean seriously what is your horse going to learn. your basically drugging him to work. to get him to do what you want to do. why not train your horse the proper way. and have a friend. not some horse thats ****ed up in the head when you ride ?

Heavenly Jumper · 12-17-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BornToRide

and how is a horse going to learn by drugging them ??

That's what I've been wondering...it's like drugging them. What if this guy was telling us to stick them with a needle full of tranquilizers. How is it different?

BornToRide · 12-17-2005, 08:52 AM

i would rather have a horse that is my friend that i can spend time with and i can be around and just have fun. not a horse that is drugged and sleep and this is probably doing brain damage of some sort. but drugging a horse is not really making them one of your friends. why noit have a horse you want to be around and spend time with with out drugs ?

arabianlover · 12-17-2005, 09:01 AM

its a natural brain chemical!

Mariah

Kiwi Pony · 12-17-2005, 09:16 AM

I beleive it works, I'm not quite clear on the point of it.

Does the horse retain the learning experience? Are you able to ride these young horses again once they have been 'tapped' and all that, then ridden, the first time? Or do they act like it never happened (not remember it)?

arabianlover · 12-17-2005, 09:20 AM

ruby seems to respect me more cause she knows I do have power over her!

Mariah

Endorphins4u2 · 12-17-2005, 01:19 PM

This isn't something you need to do everyday, you keep in the back of your head when you have a horse that is being silly about something like brushing a forlock and pulling hair out from under the head piece of a bridle,

Turn their head arouund wait for a few moments and then gently play with their ears, then slowly straighten their heads back to the normal position while still playing with the ears and the endorphins will wear-off, the horse will be back to normal and presto, you are doing something the horse wouldn't let you, without being under influece of endorphins,the horse has just past the first step of getting over their little complex, repeat if necessary. If you never need to use this, you are so lucky because lot of people do need a little hand with their horse's every now and then.

You can also use this to help the farrier to back feet because when you turn the head around the horse's front legs will spread apart making the rear lighter instead of leaning on the farrier, also you don't have to keep the head turned the whole time. Once you see their a little sleepy, let their heads go and just top the endorphins up when you have to, by a "Turn and let go, turn and let go" approach.

Because horse's heads are heavy, your arm might get tired so, turn the head,throw the lead over the horse's wither to the off-side and reach under the horse's belly, gather the rope up like you do your girth up and hold the lead with your right hand and your left hand on the horse's nose so they know you don't want them to walk around in circles.

You can find you own easy way of turning the horse's head, this works and you can take it from here and improve if you want I'm open for new ideas...

It's hard to take pictures and video's because I have no one to help me , I don't have any PR people or contacts, up until now this has all been done alone..if you can help I'm all ears....

I want to try this on all types of horses like 7 y.o mustangs etc..but we don't have any..If you have one I can borrow, bring it on..

This is as strong as you need it to be and it wears off instantly, just clap your hands and they will snap out of it...

Again, just keep it in your mind, have a practice, then put it away in you technique folder..

I have some more video's comming, please watch them before making judgment..

12-17-2005, 08:02 AM	#13
arabianlover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Pal, Indiana Posts: 861 Images: 238 Blog Entries: 8	well, I tried it again with ruby but this time in the nylon halter, and I got it alot farther, she started to get weak in the knees. but I got impatient and let her head go. SO really I think this works. And on his website he has a vidio of him doing it, its PRETTY cool. Its like a safe method to simmer your horse down for a bit. Or just to get it calm enough for bitting or saddleing it!! Mariah oh, and dont thoroghbreds grow and develop quicker than most horses. And we should not be so mean just becasue he trains thoroghbreds in the usual fashon. Arnt their any other thoroghbred racers on here? __________________ check out my photography at www.give-me-envy.deviantart.com

12-17-2005, 08:52 AM	#16
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,009 Images: 192	i would rather have a horse that is my friend that i can spend time with and i can be around and just have fun. not a horse that is drugged and sleep and this is probably doing brain damage of some sort. but drugging a horse is not really making them one of your friends. why noit have a horse you want to be around and spend time with with out drugs ? __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

12-17-2005, 09:01 AM	#17
arabianlover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Pal, Indiana Posts: 861 Images: 238 Blog Entries: 8	its a natural brain chemical! Mariah __________________ check out my photography at www.give-me-envy.deviantart.com

12-17-2005, 09:20 AM	#19
arabianlover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Pal, Indiana Posts: 861 Images: 238 Blog Entries: 8	ruby seems to respect me more cause she knows I do have power over her! Mariah __________________ check out my photography at www.give-me-envy.deviantart.com

12-17-2005, 09:16 AM	#18
Kiwi Pony Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,322 Images: 119 Blog Entries: 34	I beleive it works, I'm not quite clear on the point of it. Does the horse retain the learning experience? Are you able to ride these young horses again once they have been 'tapped' and all that, then ridden, the first time? Or do they act like it never happened (not remember it)?

12-17-2005, 01:19 PM	#20
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 708 Images: 170	This isn't something you need to do everyday, you keep in the back of your head when you have a horse that is being silly about something like brushing a forlock and pulling hair out from under the head piece of a bridle, Turn their head arouund wait for a few moments and then gently play with their ears, then slowly straighten their heads back to the normal position while still playing with the ears and the endorphins will wear-off, the horse will be back to normal and presto, you are doing something the horse wouldn't let you, without being under influece of endorphins,the horse has just past the first step of getting over their little complex, repeat if necessary. If you never need to use this, you are so lucky because lot of people do need a little hand with their horse's every now and then. You can also use this to help the farrier to back feet because when you turn the head around the horse's front legs will spread apart making the rear lighter instead of leaning on the farrier, also you don't have to keep the head turned the whole time. Once you see their a little sleepy, let their heads go and just top the endorphins up when you have to, by a "Turn and let go, turn and let go" approach. Because horse's heads are heavy, your arm might get tired so, turn the head,throw the lead over the horse's wither to the off-side and reach under the horse's belly, gather the rope up like you do your girth up and hold the lead with your right hand and your left hand on the horse's nose so they know you don't want them to walk around in circles. You can find you own easy way of turning the horse's head, this works and you can take it from here and improve if you want I'm open for new ideas... It's hard to take pictures and video's because I have no one to help me , I don't have any PR people or contacts, up until now this has all been done alone..if you can help I'm all ears.... I want to try this on all types of horses like 7 y.o mustangs etc..but we don't have any..If you have one I can borrow, bring it on.. This is as strong as you need it to be and it wears off instantly, just clap your hands and they will snap out of it... Again, just keep it in your mind, have a practice, then put it away in you technique folder.. I have some more video's comming, please watch them before making judgment..