All About the Tap

Endorphins4u2 · 12-19-2005, 01:42 PM

How many horse's died after using the twitch ?

BornToRide · 12-19-2005, 01:45 PM

i never did say this was the cause of her death but it was just something that struck odd. you may have used it on the same horse more then 4 times. that still does not mean it was not the cause or it did not harm this horse it is very possible it did and it is possible it didnt when i find out from the vet i will let you all know simple as that. but i do think it was a little odd and even tho the horse you used it on is fine it does not mean it did not harm this horse!

Jig · 12-19-2005, 01:56 PM

Endorphins, I don't want to be rude or anything- mind me if you find this offensive..

but I think you need to understand that many people feel against your method. It's constructive critisism and doing something new and scarely used will bring lots of that critisism.

Obviously, not EVERYONE thinks your wrong. And not everyone thinks your right.

With soemthing to consider,

Jig

Friesiangirl · 12-19-2005, 01:59 PM

very well said jig

SugarPony · 12-19-2005, 02:15 PM

It's amazing how some people still are arguing this as though it were an actual training method...I think he's made it fairly clear by now that it is just intended as a assist to training, not the whole base of it.

And I read through all his posts and I didn't see anything resembling "Why TRAIN your horse when you can TAP him!?"

He's not saying that tapping a horse will turn him into an Olympic champ. He's saying it will calm them down and make them sleepy.

While I'm still personally on the fence about whether this could cause future health problems, I don't see how this pacification method could be seen as so horribly wrong if it is indeed harmless.

Come on guys, if you're going to take the time to post at least take the time to read it all so your response is informed, accurate, and at the bare minimum, a worthwhile contribution!!

Happy trails

Endorphins4u2 · 12-19-2005, 02:15 PM

And, if I'm still around my next thread will be named,

" Pandora's Box "

Friesiangirl · 12-19-2005, 03:03 PM

I don't think he's saying it's a training meathod, he's saying it's for calming horses, an aid in training

PalominoBaby57 · 12-19-2005, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endorphins4u2

And, if I'm still around my next thread will be named,

" Pandora's Box "

now your provoking (sp?) people to be mad at you! Obviously this is causing major fights and arguments on HGS! Not everyone is saying this isnt right but then again a lot of people are so now that theres two different sides... well theres an argument! Stop posting about it when no one wants to hear it. Yes its a "training" aid. But this is causing great... "suffering" on HGS one post is QUITE enough! Plus isnt this considered advertising? That's not what HGS's is for

I've held my tongue I think I'll leave before I say something really stupid

The point of this post... You've posted about this once... It's repeating threads... People posted there ops... It's done... This is taking up space on HGS that no one really wants to read... I think one thread is enough for now...

~Mary

Friesiangirl · 12-19-2005, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalominoBaby57

now your provoking (sp?) people to be mad at you! Obviously this is causing major fights and arguments on HGS! Not everyone is saying this isnt right but then again a lot of people are so now that theres two different sides... well theres an argument! Stop posting about it when no one wants to hear it. Yes its a "training" aid. But this is causing great... "suffering" on HGS one post is QUITE enough! Plus isnt this considered advertising? That's not what HGS's is for

I've held my tongue I think I'll leave before I say something really stupid

The point of this post... You've posted about this once... It's repeating threads... People posted there ops... It's done... This is taking up space on HGS that no one really wants to read... I think one thread is enough for now...

~Mary

I agree, you needn't keep re-posting the same thread, it'll only get closed like the previous ones

Endorphins4u2 · 12-19-2005, 03:38 PM

Thank you Mary,

Captain Pink Panther, on the starship Enorphinize ..signing off

To all the good people out ther thank you for your support..please use my site address to contact me if you need more info on this method..

So many people following it because it was a topic that has not be covered thoroughly enough and if someone want to pick up the baton and take this further please do it because someone has to find the answer why,

Simply turning a horse's head around will drain the horse's energy enough in a matter of seconds, and make them lie down to rest...

I thought knowing we could do this could help us out in some situations, so I turn it into a technique that anybody can use,

Sorry, for wanting to get better educated about our equine friends...

Bye..

12-19-2005, 01:45 PM	#112
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,007 Images: 192	i never did say this was the cause of her death but it was just something that struck odd. you may have used it on the same horse more then 4 times. that still does not mean it was not the cause or it did not harm this horse it is very possible it did and it is possible it didnt when i find out from the vet i will let you all know simple as that. but i do think it was a little odd and even tho the horse you used it on is fine it does not mean it did not harm this horse! __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

12-19-2005, 01:56 PM	#113
Jig Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 600 Images: 41	Endorphins, I don't want to be rude or anything- mind me if you find this offensive.. but I think you need to understand that many people feel against your method. It's constructive critisism and doing something new and scarely used will bring lots of that critisism. Obviously, not EVERYONE thinks your wrong. And not everyone thinks your right. With soemthing to consider, Jig __________________ "So the next time someone says that he's "Just a horse", "Just" Smile.. because they "Just" don't understand."

12-19-2005, 01:59 PM	#114
Friesiangirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 9,497 Images: 179 Blog Entries: 22	very well said jig __________________ I cannot be expected to think wihtout a good powerbar and some coffee. Stargate Fans Unite.

12-19-2005, 03:03 PM	#117
Friesiangirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 9,497 Images: 179 Blog Entries: 22	I don't think he's saying it's a training meathod, he's saying it's for calming horses, an aid in training __________________ I cannot be expected to think wihtout a good powerbar and some coffee. Stargate Fans Unite.

12-19-2005, 03:38 PM	#120
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 708 Images: 170	Thank you Mary, Captain Pink Panther, on the starship Enorphinize ..signing off To all the good people out ther thank you for your support..please use my site address to contact me if you need more info on this method.. So many people following it because it was a topic that has not be covered thoroughly enough and if someone want to pick up the baton and take this further please do it because someone has to find the answer why, Simply turning a horse's head around will drain the horse's energy enough in a matter of seconds, and make them lie down to rest... I thought knowing we could do this could help us out in some situations, so I turn it into a technique that anybody can use, Sorry, for wanting to get better educated about our equine friends... Bye.. Last edited by Endorphins4u2; 12-20-2005 at 02:42 AM.

12-19-2005, 01:42 PM	#111
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 708 Images: 170	How many horse's died after using the twitch ?

12-19-2005, 02:15 PM	#115
SugarPony Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 394 Images: 84	It's amazing how some people still are arguing this as though it were an actual training method...I think he's made it fairly clear by now that it is just intended as a assist to training, not the whole base of it. And I read through all his posts and I didn't see anything resembling "Why TRAIN your horse when you can TAP him!?" He's not saying that tapping a horse will turn him into an Olympic champ. He's saying it will calm them down and make them sleepy. While I'm still personally on the fence about whether this could cause future health problems, I don't see how this pacification method could be seen as so horribly wrong if it is indeed harmless. Come on guys, if you're going to take the time to post at least take the time to read it all so your response is informed, accurate, and at the bare minimum, a worthwhile contribution!! Happy trails

12-19-2005, 02:15 PM	#116
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 708 Images: 170	And, if I'm still around my next thread will be named, " Pandora's Box "