All About the Tap

BornToRide · 12-19-2005, 12:48 PM

i just find it odd you know ?? i mean this was a prefectly healthy mare and it just strikes me as odd she used to "tap" and her horse dies 2 days ago ?? does this not strike anyone else as odd

Peg D · 12-19-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Friesiangirl

*gulp* Are you serious, a five-year-old mare died from this? wow, over-dose on body chemicals maybe. You never know.

Thats how rumors get started....

I don't see where Born to Ride said it DID die from this, just the mere mention is now going to have all running for the exits.
Did someone yell fire?
I highly doubt this is the case. But I am sure the OP will asure you of the same, will wait for his response on that.

Dancinglite · 12-19-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BornToRide

i just find it odd you know ?? i mean this was a prefectly healthy mare and it just strikes me as odd she used to "tap" and her horse dies 2 days ago ?? does this not strike anyone else as odd

I havn't gotten into this conversation because I don't jump the gun until proof is put before me.

The same sort of proof is require before I would state as fact that ANY horse died as a direct result of this proceedure. Rumors fly too fast and thick in the horse world and we should not be a party to the spread of any "information" without proof.

My own breeding operation was squashed due to this sort of thing so maybe we should wait until a vet as made a professional opinion.

arabianlover · 12-19-2005, 12:56 PM

well, I used the tap and it was 3 days ago and ruby isfine, when was the last time the horse had a check up, it could have APPEAREd heathly, but not have been!!

Mariah

BornToRide · 12-19-2005, 12:57 PM

i am not saying it was the cause of it you guys i am just saying i find it kinda of odd because i mean it was a perfectly fine ?? i just find this kinda of odd!

Peg D · 12-19-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dancinglite

I havn't gotten into this conversation because I don't jump the gun until proof is put before me.

The same sort of proof is require before I would state as fact that ANY horse died as a direct result of this proceedure. Rumors fly too fast and thick in the horse world and we should not be a party to the spread of any "information" without proof.

My own breeding operation was squashed due to this sort of thing so maybe we should wait until a vet as made a professional opinion.

Thank-you DL..... Many businesses - legit ones have gone through this very same thing..... must be part of the birthing process. Posted at the same time...LOL

PalominoBaby57 · 12-19-2005, 01:05 PM

hmmm I'll try and hold my tounge a lil better this time...

I still dont agree. Yes TB's are trained young but are they really "trained?"... No. They know basics. Let a rider stay on run like He!! turn when he signals and stop when he says whoa! But thats not really "training"

If I went into a ring on my horse and I compeated against a TB who was trained with the tap or w/e. He wouldnt even come CLOSE to placing near us. Because I've spent TIME with him. BONDING, WORKING, this tap is "cheating" your drugging the horse then burning this stuff into their poor minds. They probably dont know whats even going on. Which in my book isnt good. I want a horse who knows ME! Not this calm down quick drug training. I dont like it and I dont think its a "real" training method. I went out to a dude ranch for a while and these horses who were bred born raised and trained on this farm were the most willing quietest and calmest horses I have EVER met. Because their handlers took TIME to train them for themselves. You need to mold the horse for you not smash it.

Horses are like clay. Mold them right they turn out to be works of art. Mold them and become impatient they turn into a gloppy mess that looks like a snowman melting.

JMO...

~Mary

BornToRide · 12-19-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PalominoBaby57

hmmm I'll try and hold my tounge a lil better this time...

I still dont agree. Yes TB's are trained young but are they really "trained?"... No. They know basics. Let a rider stay on run like He!! turn when he signals and stop when he says whoa! But thats not really "training"

If I went into a ring on my horse and I compeated against a TB who was trained with the tap or w/e. He wouldnt even come CLOSE to placing near us. Because I've spent TIME with him. BONDING, WORKING, this tap is "cheating" your drugging the horse then burning this stuff into their poor minds. They probably dont know whats even going on. Which in my book isnt good. I want a horse who knows ME! Not this calm down quick drug training. I dont like it and I dont think its a "real" training method. I went out to a dude ranch for a while and these horses who were bred born raised and trained on this farm were the most willing quietest and calmest horse I have EVER met. Because their handlers took TIME to train them for themselves. You need to mold the horse for you not smash it.

Horses are like clay. Mold them right they turn out to be works of art. Mold them and become impatient they turn into a gloppy mess that looks like a snowman melting.

JMO...

~Mary

very very well put!!!!!!!!! thank you!!!!!!

Endorphins4u2 · 12-19-2005, 01:37 PM

Good morning all,

she tried it about 4 times!!

I have done the 14 to same horse is one day and then when he went to the racecorse, he got me back because I put $400 (money that I didn't have) on the win, and he second by a nose...

Also, this is not about strength, small people can do this, just takes a little practice ...

Stockman, please follow those people up for me...

Friesiangirl · 12-19-2005, 01:38 PM

I am going to try it for myself, and see if it really works, and if it does, then i know it does.

I like how people state their oppinions, but, again, no need to shove it down peoples throats, if we want to try it, we will, no matter what anyone says. so, that's my $0.02

-Hayley

Oh, and Peg_D, i'm confused now, um, so is it not true about the horse dying? or is it? i was just saying that if it is, that *could* be the reason, not that it is the reason. I am no equine expert, so, i just guessed. I did not mean to start rumors

and for that i appologise

12-19-2005, 12:48 PM	#101
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,009 Images: 192	i just find it odd you know ?? i mean this was a prefectly healthy mare and it just strikes me as odd she used to "tap" and her horse dies 2 days ago ?? does this not strike anyone else as odd __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

12-19-2005, 12:56 PM	#104
arabianlover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Pal, Indiana Posts: 861 Images: 238 Blog Entries: 8	well, I used the tap and it was 3 days ago and ruby isfine, when was the last time the horse had a check up, it could have APPEAREd heathly, but not have been!! Mariah __________________ check out my photography at www.give-me-envy.deviantart.com

12-19-2005, 12:57 PM	#105
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,009 Images: 192	i am not saying it was the cause of it you guys i am just saying i find it kinda of odd because i mean it was a perfectly fine ?? i just find this kinda of odd! __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

12-19-2005, 01:05 PM	#107
PalominoBaby57 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester New York Posts: 1,757 Images: 325 Blog Entries: 3	hmmm I'll try and hold my tounge a lil better this time... I still dont agree. Yes TB's are trained young but are they really "trained?"... No. They know basics. Let a rider stay on run like He!! turn when he signals and stop when he says whoa! But thats not really "training" If I went into a ring on my horse and I compeated against a TB who was trained with the tap or w/e. He wouldnt even come CLOSE to placing near us. Because I've spent TIME with him. BONDING, WORKING, this tap is "cheating" your drugging the horse then burning this stuff into their poor minds. They probably dont know whats even going on. Which in my book isnt good. I want a horse who knows ME! Not this calm down quick drug training. I dont like it and I dont think its a "real" training method. I went out to a dude ranch for a while and these horses who were bred born raised and trained on this farm were the most willing quietest and calmest horses I have EVER met. Because their handlers took TIME to train them for themselves. You need to mold the horse for you not smash it. Horses are like clay. Mold them right they turn out to be works of art. Mold them and become impatient they turn into a gloppy mess that looks like a snowman melting. JMO... ~Mary __________________ Hello, my name is MARY *deal with it*

12-19-2005, 01:38 PM	#110
Friesiangirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 9,500 Images: 179 Blog Entries: 22	I am going to try it for myself, and see if it really works, and if it does, then i know it does. I like how people state their oppinions, but, again, no need to shove it down peoples throats, if we want to try it, we will, no matter what anyone says. so, that's my $0.02 -Hayley Oh, and Peg_D, i'm confused now, um, so is it not true about the horse dying? or is it? i was just saying that if it is, that could be the reason, not that it is the reason. I am no equine expert, so, i just guessed. I did not mean to start rumors and for that i appologise __________________ I cannot be expected to think wihtout a good powerbar and some coffee. Stargate Fans Unite.

12-19-2005, 01:37 PM	#109
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	Good morning all, she tried it about 4 times!! I have done the 14 to same horse is one day and then when he went to the racecorse, he got me back because I put $400 (money that I didn't have) on the win, and he second by a nose... Also, this is not about strength, small people can do this, just takes a little practice ... Stockman, please follow those people up for me...