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A friend of mine bought a 13 yr. old mare. The mare was fine and rode great when she went to look at her. Once she brought her home the horse started showing signs of severe aggression, almost as if she did not like people at all. The minute we came around barn, my friend called her name and she instantly pinned her ears back. My friend explained she has tried to bite her and her daughter as well as tried kicking her while she was trying to pet her. We went into the pasture as she has two other horses who are very friendly. I was about 4 feet away from the mare, before I knew what hit me she had my left breast in her mouth, picked me up about 3 feet off the ground, shook me and threw me about 6 feet, needless to say I have a lot of damage to my left side. My friend wondered if she could have the horse corrected, I explained to get rid of her before she kills someone, possibly put her down, but frist contact the seller. Honestly I think the horse was drugged before my friend bought her. Does anyone have any suggestions? I will say my friend called to tell me she out at the pasture about 100 feet from the mare, just talking to her and the whole time she said she had her ears pinned right back and seemed angry. Any help for this horse???
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Sounds like you friend fell victim to a drugged horse Have they tried talking to the past owners to take her back? If it's a horse trader and refuses to do so you can really screw up their name. I agree with you, she seriously needs to get rid of the horse before she kills someone, especially if they lack the experience. It's no telling what the underlying problems are, abuse, negligence, etc. Everything that needs to be done you've already said and know that needs to be done. I'm all for giving a horse a second chance, but sometimes the amount of experience it takes to correct someone's mistake is more than one can handle. Highly recommend to your friend to contact the seller and try and get that horse back, if all else fails, then she just needs to sell her to someone who has experience to try and find the underlying problem. Most factors in a horses aggression are pain and abuse, it's a shame but horses are a product of how they are treated, raised, and handled. Best of luck to your friend ETA: I too have been in this situation, well my parents as I was too young to know any different but we had a horse that was drugged, sweetest thing at their place, but we had to call before we came every time. We were still new to horses so knew no better. Bring the horse home and he broke my Dad's shoulder. Which is why I press for a 2 week trial and a vet check. If the seller doesn't want to do a trial, then there isn't a point in pursuing the horse. (some other cases change it)
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This is why a lot of people will tell owners they will be there at 2, and show up at noon. Or vice-versa, so horse will either not be drugged yet, or be over effects. Also, if your friend resells horse, even when she tells someone horse is dangerous, could end up getting sued, if she does not get sale papers that say she has been honest about problems, and is selling horse to a person who states they are aware of this. As someone could later go and say friend just said horse needed more training. Also, is the person friend bought from a "horse trader?" The Gypsies used to sell horses that they knew would not work out, such as their "Sleeping Beauty" horses. And then when new owner would complain, would offer to buy horse back since new owner was not happy, but never at price new owner had paid, or would trade for inferior horse/tack. I would suggest your friend go back to seller, and say this horse is dangerous, as friend has herself and you for witness, and tell seller wants her money back. This person may or may not be the kind of person who cares what kind of reputation they have. This horse is very dangerous, and needs to go back.
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Did your friend interact with the horse in the stall or out in the pasture when she went to look at her? or was the mare tied up in the barn and ready to be ridden when she got there? How long has it been since she brought the mare home?
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There are a few things that you can do with that horse..... Get it back to the previous owner. Put it out to pasture with no human contact Or put it down. Or know completely what you are doing and retrain this horse....(this is not for a beginner or the fain hearted)..you may also have to use sedations to help you...not something I woud recommend after doing this myself....it is dangerous. I would also get this horse checked over by a chiro/physio in case there is a pain issue...specially the pole area...the part between the ears on to of the head...if this is out it gives them an almight headache...and cna turn them very nasty. My mare was similar to this....but I did have the time and patience to deal with this and it did take years....she is like a puppy dog now...but must be watched at all time. As when she is in pain she will let you know by ttying to take your head off. |
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Thank you everyone for your response, my friend did contact the seller and according to her she has had the horse for about 3 weeks. Although she says she never rode the horse, the horse did not show signs of aggression? I do find that hard to believe, unless she too received the horse drugged up. I truly think that horse wanted to kill me, I have been around horses all my life, I have 3 of my own and have never seen a horse like that mare. The doctor said I have extensive muscle and tissue damage not to mention a huge bite and pain like I have never felt. I will get better, however it's going to be a long road. I truly don't think that horse should be sold to anyone, not even one with years of experience. I believe something is wrong with her brain. I will let you all know the outcome. Again thanks so much, horse people are teh best people!!
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CG-I got bit my a horse years ago, I cant see your photo, just a red X..but my bite was given to me by a stallion..he picked me up by my shoulder and then dropped me. I hope yours doesnt scar..get some Mederma..I didnt use that on mine and I have a small scar on my shoulder, but I used it on a surgery I had and have very little scarring. I asked about if your friend had interacted with the mare in the settings she was showing aggression as it almost sounds like territorial type behavior..regardless..she definantly has issues..weather manmade or mental..not a case to be taken on by ANYONE but a very very experienced horseperson. Your friend will have to prove the horse was either drugged or the Previous owner knew she was aggressive and sold her without disclosing that... I dont know of any sedative that works for 3 weeks..usually you can tell if a horse has had something 24-48 hours later. How long has your friend actually owned the horse? Hope you heal up soon..
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A seller that has only had a horse for a very short time is ALWAYS a red flag for me. Having said that - I would contact the seller ask that they take the horse back. If they aren;t interested - then document all the conversations that they had with the seller - document them now while they can remember. Make sure they note who was where when all the questions were asked. Document everything. Have them write a letter to the seller - send it registered and regular mail - have them say that they have been sold a dangerous horse and they wish to return the horse and receive a refund. Give them a date to reply by - and also advise that if they do not get a reply by that date they will consul counsel. Make sure that they have a timeline and that they stick by it - if you stick to your time line and follow though - they have to know that you mean business. Then consult an attorney and have them ready to wright a letter. I was sold a dangerous horse at christmas - the seller initially didn;t want to take her back and insulted me by suggesting that I was a beginner and needed more lessons on how to work with a horse. When I reminded her of how long I had been around horses and that I had a witness to me asking her if she would consider the horse safe and suitable for my 8 year old duaghter - she backed down - took the horse back and refunded me my payment. There is not much more that I hate than someone that sells a dangerous horse. How much did they pay for this horse? Where did they find it?
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