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Topic: Equine behavourist
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babs
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posted May 16, 2004 02:07 PM
I got a leaflet about an equine behavourist so i got in touch with her.
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Well you know i had a few problems with Jack and i want to do some work in hand first when he comes back after his holiday.
WEll i emailed her and said bit about me and Jack and for her to send me some info.
WEll she said she is £20 an hour and she would rather see Jack while he is on his holiday 1st as she could make a better assesment of him there.
THen i can judge her and decide if i want her to do a couple of sessions at the yard.
I am going to ring her during the week for further info.
SHe said not to buy a pressure halter yet either.
WHat is your opinion on equine behaviourists?
From what i gather she is assesing the owner/handler as much as the horse.
Posts: 1242 | From: Belfast Northern Ireland | Registered: Jan 2004
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MissBandit
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posted May 16, 2004 02:47 PM
Gee, I really can't say as I have never heard of that before. I suppose as long as she doesn't try to read Jack's tea leaves or interpret his aura...I am personally wary of folks that give themselves titles like that. What exactly is she claiming she will do?
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...you actually get to a point where flies don't bother you so much.
Posts: 2292 | From: BC, Canada | Registered: Jan 2004
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babs
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posted May 16, 2004 02:59 PM
i haven't got her flyer on me at the moment.
I will know more when i talk to her on the phonne.
She is opening a web site in june called Why does my horse?
I think she is probably alon the line of interperting body language and teaching you how to react to how your horse beahaves.
I'll get the flyer and come back with more details when i have spoken to her.
Posts: 1242 | From: Belfast Northern Ireland | Registered: Jan 2004
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spyro1
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posted May 16, 2004 03:03 PM
OOh, this sounds fascinating babs. I would love to learn more too... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Posts: 2755 | From: Sunny South Florida | Registered: Aug 2003
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babs
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posted May 16, 2004 03:38 PM
ok i gotthe flyer.
I'll try and summarise it.
Harmony behaviour aims to improve the qualit of the human horse relationship by encouraging a bettr understanding of equine behaviour and learning.
Helen offers proffesional advice on horse behaviour and training both on the ground and while riding.
Problems often arise from a miscommunication between horse and handler. By explaining how the horse interperts our actions and gaining a better understanding on how they view the world we can then begin to deal with the problem by re-educating ourselves and our horses.
TRaining sessions for horseriders focus on improving the riders understanding of their influence on the horse , oth physically and mentally, incorporating sports psychology and reward based training techniques and an understanding of how rider posture and balance affects the horses way of going.
Sessions are taught in an holistic manner. considering the many interactions between horse and human behaviour and its impact on learing and performance.
HElen is a provisional member of the asociation of pet behaviour counsellors
THis website opens in june.
www.whydoesmyhorse.co.uk
a web site thataims to promote further understanding of equine behaviour.
Thats it in brief.
I have a feeling she may be one of the people who came out with or was conected to a woman who comes to our yard every few months and does private riding lessons concerning the Alexander Technique.
She does half and hour on a saddle horse on your position and then hal and hour on your own horse (she was £50 or £60) an hour.)
Posts: 1242 | From: Belfast Northern Ireland | Registered: Jan 2004
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MissBandit
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posted May 16, 2004 03:54 PM
Ok, well we all know that I'm an advocate for Natural Horsemanship. And the majority of that spiel sounds like NH. The only thing that gets my eyebrows going is "Sessions are taught in an holistic manner". I just don't buy into any of that. I've seen a woman who diagnoses lameness through holistic what-cha-ma-call-it. She places one hand on the area of concern, sticks the other hand straight out from her side and asks someone to push down on her arm. If her arm is easily pushed down, the horse has a physical ailment in that region. If her arm has resistance, then there is strenght in that region. So... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) Nope - just not my cup of tea leaves.
[ May 16, 2004, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: MissBandit ]
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You know you are a horse person when...
...You pull change from your pocket , and hay falls out.
...you yell at the kids, and the horse's name pops out.
...you actually get to a point where flies don't bother you so much.
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slc
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posted May 16, 2004 05:00 PM
It might be ok but I'd be kind of scared of someone who calls themselves an equine behaviorist.
If a person said they were just a good traditional horse trainer with simple, traditional methods that all good horse trainers use, and had a way to teach people how to do what they do by saying things out clear and simple, but made sure they said it isn't something someone just learns in one session, it takes practice and time with horses, then I would be comfortable with them.
It isn't so complicated, it doesn't take some fancy behavioral expert, it is easy to get horses to behave well with simple, traditional training methods, and without cruelty. It just needs being patient, clear and consistent and good methods.
[ May 16, 2004, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: slc ]
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harli36
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posted May 16, 2004 05:29 PM
I agree with Miss Bandit. This lady sounds like an NH trainer. Some of the things she is saying she teaches you how to do sounds like things anyone who is intuitive will learn through spending time with the horses and gaining experience. What makes her say she is an equine behaviorist anyways.
What is her schooling. There is actually an college degree/minor in this stuff. If she doesn't have the degree I would be wary. It sounds like all she is is an NH person that is trying to market herself in a different way with out having actually done the schooling in equine behavior. But it won't hurt to try her out and see what you think.
Posts: 613 | From: northeastern Pa | Registered: Feb 2004
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babs
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posted May 17, 2004 10:31 AM
I know shes doing a phd at Queens university in Belfast.
I asked my boss about her and she said she seen her on tv last week and although she was on less than 5 minutes she didn't answer the interviewers questions and the horse she was holding was shoving her about and she was just ignoring it.
My boss seen Monty Roberts a few years ago and she said he said you have to chase/send them away from you 6 or 7 times before letting them 'join up ' with you so they know you are the boss.
SHe says just to wait to Jack comes back and see what hes like then.
We can all learn to read a horses body language and a lot of it is common sense.which i agree.
I have read articles and books and maybe i am just trying to cram too much info in my brain.
I just want to train with out cruelity or fear but i don't want him thinking he can walk over me either.
So, now i am confused. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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posted May 17, 2004 02:42 PM
I just came back from a Richard Shrake clinic this weekend. It was very good and it got into the psychology and the why they react the ways that they do and how to fix what your doing and read your horse. It was great. It had a lot of information. This was just one aspect of the clinic but it was interesting. He has a video on it. Have a look at www.richardshrake.com It is basically natural horsemanship "resistance free riding." Not getting in the way of the horse. Working with the horse. Small things riders do that get in the way or effect horse performance.
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