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Topic: helpppp!..... my horse wont stop!
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hossluva
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posted April 22, 2004 05:17 PM
she just wont stop she was once abused but i thought she was over it?!!!??? helppppppppp!please!!!!
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Toby&Arie
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posted April 22, 2004 05:29 PM
In what situations is she resistant to stopping?
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crazi4horses
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posted April 22, 2004 05:57 PM
sit deep in your seat, tighten your butt and stomach muscles, do half halts inside outside both, and while your doing them say "ho" or "woah"(whichever)
If she doesnt respond the first time, do them a little firmer then next time, then even firmer the next time. Usually after ive given them the aid 3 times and they still wont respond i do see-sawing(right left right left etc) in half halts.(going up in firmness as i need too) As soon as she stops give her the reins and praise her.
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Posts: 2836 | From: New Hampshire | Registered: Sep 2003
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hossluva
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posted April 22, 2004 06:00 PM
ok well it seems that when eva i want her to stop i give her the usual q's and she slows i lil so i release then she tries to break into the next fasest gate a couple times i had to run her at the arena fence and i thought she was going to jusp it!
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Posts: 241 | From: ohio | Registered: Apr 2004
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cowgurly02
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posted April 22, 2004 07:00 PM
Go back to your basics start out just going at a walk. To ask your horse to stop, first say "Whoah", then sit deep in the saddle and finally put some pressure on the mouth. If she doesn't respond check and release with gradually more pressure until she stops. As soon as she stops get off her mouth and just let her stand for a few seconds to let her know when she stops the pressure will be released. She'll soon be stopping as soon as you say whoah and sit. Once that's mastered go onto a trott and then a lope
I still do this with my broke barrel horses sometimes to keep them light on the mouth and responding correctly to my aids. A horse with no stop is no fun to ride! Good luck! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Toby&Arie
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posted April 22, 2004 08:55 PM
When you want her to stop, sit deep in the saddle by contracting your lower belly muscles (NOT by moving your shoulders), pull your head back, squeeze the reins and say whoa. If there isn't a response squeeze again and this time add a pull. Pull and release the reins in order to get her to stop. If she is completely ignoring that then start circling her and making her work. After a few times around, ask her to whoa again. If she still won't then more circles. Keep at it until she realizes that stopping is preferable to running round and round in tiny circles. When she does finally stop, make a fuss over her and tell her what a good girl she is.
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cowgurly02
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posted April 22, 2004 09:01 PM
Toby&Arie that's a good method too I've used that with hyper horses who don't want to walk when your out on the trail and it works great.
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peace
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posted April 22, 2004 10:33 PM
toby&arie and cowgirly...you guys are great!!! i loved the tips it feels really good to know that there are nice horse people out there... that is exactly what i believe, it works good advise. ![[Applaud]](graemlins/applaud.gif) [ April 22, 2004, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: peace ]
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7HL
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posted April 23, 2004 04:54 AM
The one rein stop. Works!
One rein stop
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Blistering Winds
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posted April 23, 2004 05:39 AM
Don't move to the next Gait!
Start in the walk. She HAS to stop in a walk before EVER moving to the trot. Then work in the trot, stop. When she is solid there, then you can canter.
Sit back like everyone said, and pull back and say WHOA! If she slows down, fine, but hold the reins firm until she is completely Stopped. When she is, give her the release and LOTS and LOTS of praise! Say Whoa every 2-3 seconds until she IS stopped.
Also, back her up 1-2 steps after every stop. Praise her at that point. Helps collect them and they will expect the back up, so the obvious thing for them to do IS to stop forward motion. Takes some time, but he/she will get there.
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Posts: 4337 | From: Texas | Registered: Oct 2003
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Chris
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posted April 23, 2004 10:22 AM
ONE REIN STOPS! Start by teaching your horse how to do laterial flexes on the ground. Then after doing about a hundred or so... on EACH side and getting your horse real soft, move on to doing them under saddle. Starting with the walk, do about a hundred EACH side, then the trot.... About a hundred EACH side. ect. You get the idea... The one rein stop is like having an emergency break. I won't ride ANY horse that doesn't know how to do this! This make your horse real soft and supple under saddle. The best thing I could have done is teach my horse how to do this. Hope this helps! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Posts: 36 | From: Aliquippa, Pennsylvania | Registered: May 2003
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cowgurly02
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posted April 23, 2004 11:38 AM
thanx peace ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Posts: 471 | From: Alberta, Canada | Registered: Mar 2004
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hossluva
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posted April 24, 2004 11:33 AM
k i tryed all ur guyuz methods but they didnt work i need some magor hellllllppp! im getting a lil frusterated!
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Pony Magic
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posted April 24, 2004 11:53 AM
Sounds like its time to do some one on one with a trainer...
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LadyJumper
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posted April 24, 2004 03:50 PM
hey what is your horses name, and i think i might no why she/he is doing this because this happened to one of my horses.
Posts: 215 | From: Arkansas | Registered: Jul 2003
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Toby&Arie
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posted April 24, 2004 04:54 PM
If she still isn't stopping then I too would suggest getting an experienced person to watch you ride her and help you out. It's obvious that there is a problem in the line of communication between horse and rider somewhere and it would really be easiest to ask someone in person for advice. A lesson would really be great if you could get one, but a knowledgable horse person should be able pinpoint what's going wrong and aid you in fixing it as well.
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Jumpers
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posted April 24, 2004 06:52 PM
I agree it's time for a professional trainer to assist you. They will be able to pinpoint possible causes through carefully observing you and your horse work together.
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hossluva
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posted April 25, 2004 07:03 AM
my horses name is maddie and i have a lesson today with a new trainer so ill keep u posted
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Posts: 241 | From: ohio | Registered: Apr 2004
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hossluva
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posted April 25, 2004 07:11 AM
ok heres her story u need to go to horse health and under stifle and hock problems see if that will help.sry i didnt tell u sooner
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hossluva
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posted April 30, 2004 07:44 PM
~*BUMP*~show sunday and she wont stop?!?!?!?!?!
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Bluelightspecial
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posted May 01, 2004 08:57 PM
If your horse won't stop when you half halt, sit deep, tighten your upper leg and stomach muscles or listen to any other "whoaing" q's than talk to your trainer and see what she says. Another possible reason is maybe your using a bit that isn't quite right for your horse. What kind of bit are you using now? I used to have the same problem with my horse when I was using a d-ring french link snaffe. Then I switched to an elevator bit and it made such a difference! Maybe your bit isn't strong enough - I'm not saying go out and buy the harshest bit you can find but do some research on bits and see if there are any that might help you out. Also, if your horse is grabbing the bit try looking into buying a figure 8 or a flash. Both these prevent them from doing that - I use a flash on trails just for extra precaution b/c I have a tb and its hard to stop them once they take off. Good luck - I hope it helps!
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hossluva
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posted May 02, 2004 09:03 AM
im using a snaffle made by myler we had some sort of kimblewick cotraption on her but we took it off and now she wont listen. my trainer says i need a flash cause she chews and im looking into a new bit but the closest tack shop is like 1hr away so maybe this week... what bit do u recomend?
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cerberus
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posted May 02, 2004 09:17 AM
Same problem with my horse. I do the one rein, circle stops. He picked it up within two trys. Of course i will have to go over with each ride. but it really does work! The first time I tried it I think I must have done two dozen circles until he figured it's better to do as he's told than walk in circles after that each try was shorter and shorter. As soon as he stopped I release pressure and praise him.
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hossluva
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posted May 02, 2004 09:36 AM
ok ill try it again but do u think i should make a change of bit? im going out there in about 20min.
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 02, 2004 10:35 AM
If the horse won't stop with the bit you are using, DON"T SHOW. You will endanger you AND your horse AND other riders.
Plus it looks crappy in the pen.
You said he worked on a kimberwick? Then take him back to it. WHy did you stop using it? Some horses unfortunately have harder mouths and need the more complicated bits. Your horse obviously doesn't understand the D-ring snaffle and refuses to listen to it. Take him back to a curb bit. Mine is the same way. Won't listen to regular snaffles, but with any leverage, he'll stop on a dime.
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