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babs
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posted April 14, 2004 01:39 PM
Thats it! I have had enough... I think i'm gonna have to admit defeat and sell Jack.
I'm sitting here crying and breaking my heart but i'm just not cut out to be a horse owner, never mind owning a youngster.
I'd some snotty kid going down my throat tonight cos she said he was spoilt and i let him away with too much cos he wanted to drink water from the tap when she was rinsing a bucket.
His leg looks ok today but cos he lost a front shoe i didn't ride.
So i took him a walk on the lead rope and he kept trailing me so i gave him a tap with the stick and took him to the indoor.
He was being cheeky and trying to bite and strike out so i slapped him for that and took him to the outdoor and pointed the lunge whip at him and said go work and he cantered round thrn he went in the other direction etc. i just stood in the middle pointing it at him and he went round. Then i put it down and when he was ready he came in to me and followed me about for a bit.When i took him out he trailed me again to the barest wee shoots of grass, so i put him back in the outdoor and made him work again, let him come into me,when i took him out he behaved so i hosed his legs and put him to bed.
i was thinking of getting a pressure halter but whether its because it is spring or because he was on a headcollar, i dunno. He isn't like that in a bridle...
I'm scared he is getting to much for me, he is so strong, he seems to be getting cheekier and i have rarely ever hit him and i hate having to do so. Its like he is throwing a temper tantrum when he misbehaves, just cos he ccan't get his own way.
Usually if he ever nipped i'd push his nose away and say no but tonight i slapped him on the muzzle/nose saying Don't! He wasn't amused.
ON one hand i have people wanting to buy him and saying i have done a great job, on another i'm overhearing how much Jack loves me (yeah, right), on another i let him away with too much.
MAybe its just a bad patch, maybe we are not right for eachother, i just don't know anymore....
I am still getting teased about getting on like a 'psycho' about him falling "oh my baby,my poor horse etc. I wasn't sure i loved him untill then and when that happened i knew i did.
But part of me thinks whys he doing this to me when he is bad.
If i sell him i'd not only be horseless but a failure aswell. ![[Bawling]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
I'm sorry this has been so long. I feel even more upset now i have said it.
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posted April 14, 2004 01:42 PM
aww, dont say your a bad horse owner! Your great to Jack and from the pics it easy to see how much you two care about each other. I dont think any of the stuff you did was wrong, he needs to learn. how old is he? If you really feel that you cant handle him do what you need to do but i think you can do it ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I have faith in you!
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posted April 14, 2004 01:45 PM
Give it some time.... My horses are cheekier than ever right now too. Im sure Jack loves you as much as you love him, he is just ansty. What are they saying you let him get away with? just curious. Just dont give up. Spend some more time with him and work more with him. Put some riding time in and if you still feel this way in a couple of weeks then you can consider selling him. But whatever you do you are Not a Failure! Just because some gets in a little over their head sometimes doesnt make them a failure. It sounds like Jack and you are perfect for eachother. It sounds like he is just testing you. Maybe he is trying to get more attention? pay some more visits to the stable and spend more time with him and see if he gets better.
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posted April 14, 2004 01:48 PM
Dont give up until you know it is time, then it is not really a failure. Work with him and maybe not do the whole 'misbehave=work' then he wont want to work and he will look at work as a punishment. Also could he be i pain or disconfort? This could be making him nip. Our mare, Dixie, used to bite at you at the trot and we found out it was because she was the ever so slightest bit lame. Has he had any bad experiances with leading or anything?
You could also look at it as if i sell him i could get another horse. But is it worth it? I sold Ben to get Spirit and i was devistated about losing Ben but now i know spirit is the horse for me.
Good luck, tell us what you do.
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posted April 14, 2004 02:10 PM
Don't worry about what other people think... there are always going to be people that tell you you're doing things right and always some that tell you you are doing them wrong (and the snotty ones are almost always going to tell you're wrong lol) What you should do is honestly think about how YOU think you are doing with him, don't let what other people think influence that.... having said that it sounds to me like you're doing a good job with him
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posted April 14, 2004 02:21 PM
Babs you are Not a failure and it doesn't sound like you've done anything wrong. Do not take the opinion of a snot nosed brat to heart. I learned the hard way that sometimes you even have to stare down the people who are Supposed to know what they're talking about and say "You're wrong." Look at the hard facts, what you Have accomplished. And even the best of horses occasionally get/ need their nose smacked. ("The less often you raise hand/voice, the more Impressive it is when you do.") I came out of college almost convinced that Raps was a better horse than I deserved to have, and would have sold hime then for a decent price. It would have been the biggest mistake of my life, possibly one of the last. Don't let anybody convince you you're a failure, and don't convince yourself. Do you have a trusted advisor you can consult, who has nothing to gain if you sell or don't? If this is a rough patch, can you muddle thru & improve (I bet you can). Is there anything Jack does that you think a Board full of people from around the world can't help you figure out? Let's start w/ teaching Jack to push snotnose kids into their water bucket, LOL! Don't give up. (Now if you'll excuse me I need to find the encouraging Smiley with the Yay flag..)
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posted April 14, 2004 02:27 PM
you could always get a chain halter?!...my horse does that sometimes too! ...like right now cause the grass is SO green! ...just pop him on his shoulder or chest so he wont get head shy...DONT GIVE UP! YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB! and i let my horse drink from the hose!!
also what does cheeky mean?!
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posted April 14, 2004 02:27 PM
HE is rising 4 (apparantly) He's a year younger than we thought.
Tonight was the first time i had done the misbehave work thing.
When i am told i let him away with too much i think they mean that i have 'babied' him too much in the past and always gave him the benifit of the doubt in certain situiations eg-he's sore, he's scared, what ever.
Oh and i don't 'correct' him enough! - hit him, give him a wallop etc, He has my number etc.
He's usually fairly well behaved, we've had the odd spat of problems which with help from the forum we pretty much sorted.
I have been looking after him from summer 2002 and owned him from last year. but see the last couple of weeks - spring- he is being 'frisky'(?)
Hes calm enough to ride but in hand he is awfull,
he's so food orintated and contrary.bolshy.
He was borrowed by a member of staff to ride in a lesson and i couldn't even watch her ride cos he kept looking over at me like "theres my mum" she thought it was funny. He talks when he sees me and he watches me, He is jealos if he sees me handling other horses , the staff say "awww you want to have seen jacks face, he looked so hurt"
Then he has to go and be nasty to me. I wish they could understand english.
[ April 14, 2004, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: babs ]
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posted April 14, 2004 03:06 PM
KT when i said he was being cheeky i meant he was like trying to push me around and nipping, then when he nipped i slapped him and he was like "whoa, that aint supposed to happen" cos as a rule he doesn't get hit.
THen like when a wee kid stamps its foot when it doen't get its own way he does the same only he strikes out.
He likes to lift things in his mouth. like buckets, whips etc. He took this girls hat off and wasn't impressed that i took it off him. Then he likes to be a conductor and hold a whip in is mouth but i had to take it off him cos a beginner rider came in on her pony and i didn't want him to frighten her.
THe few shoots of grass that are through so far he is going mad for. I mean if it is coming through a crack in a wall he wants it.
i'm gonna have a thik about good points/things we have achieved and whats going wrong now.
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posted April 14, 2004 07:25 PM
aww..hes just a youngin! he just wants to play. We had this same problem! we had a 4 year old paint who was just a little brat!...we talked to my trainer and she said...carry a crop in your pocket and wack his sorry a** every time he does it...he learned that he coulndt get away with it! you can still spoil him! its okay! and its ok if he has some fun sometimes, he is probably bored...as simple as that sounds...just mix up the routine...change the schedule on him...take him out one day and let him eat! ..but when YOU want him to come in...MAKE HIM! and i mean PULL Him in..DRAG HIM if you have to!...i suggest you get a chained shank...and make him listen! also...if he is draging you around...make him stop..and back his little butt WAY BACK..like push his chest and make him step backwords like 10 steps and DONT let him move even the slightest..if he picks up his foot back him up more..and make him WAIT until you say its okay to walk..and just randomly stop and make him wait...and when he tries to move....BACK HIM UP! **i have a 17.2 hand TB and we had the 4 year old and a little wise 6 year tb mare that thinks she can step all over people...or should i say she USED to think she could! DONT GIVE UP!!! KEEP TRYING!!! YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB!! HES JUST BEING A 4 YEAR OLD...like a child he is testing his waters!!! let him know his boundries! he'll learn eventually..i promise..dont give in!
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posted April 14, 2004 08:20 PM
You dont need to get rid of him It sounds to me like you are doing the right things! There is a trick on how to wave an american flag. So use his oral addiction by training him this simple trick. If you want I can look it up for you and post the link. I think that making him joinup when he didnt follow you correctly was the right thing but hey I am not a pro trainer so dunno if that is right or not.
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posted April 14, 2004 08:29 PM
Don't you dare quit riding or doubt yourself!!! Do NOT, do NOT listen to someone else's rude comments! She doesn't know anything about you or your horse. From how you talk about Jack and the pictures I've seen you are not only a capable horsewoman who loves her horse but a great one!
Everyone goes through challenges. My own horse when we got him was so stubborn and crazy as a result of being ill-trained. He had been allowed to get away with bloody murder and was h.ell -bent on getting his way. Let me tell you I doubted my ability to handle him everytime he dug up a new stunt to pull. I kept on thinking "What if I'm not good enough? Should I give up and sell him?" But I stuck it through and a year later he is a wonderful horse who I have learned so much from. If I didn't have him I would never have grown in my riding and training abilities to the extent that I have. I owe him the world and we brought out the best in each other by working through.
If you give up, you'll only regret it and Jack will miss you way too much! Working through your problems will only make you stronger and feel that much better about yourself. You're capable of handling it, don't ever doubt yourself ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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posted April 14, 2004 08:36 PM
Also, just because he challenges you doesn't mean he doesn't get along with you, he is just testing you to see how much he is able to get away with. Don't feel bad about giving him strong reprimands. Make it clear when he pushes you around, you are going to push back. Once you've established what behaviors are unacceptable he will start behaving himself. Just hang in there and keep working with him, it's worth it and your bond will be even stronger for it!!
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posted April 14, 2004 08:44 PM
sounds like my stud who is now a gelding and well i think ive given up arrgg im so back and forth i know exactly what ur feeling and im there and been there for 4 yrs! and well it may just be time to move on not saying for u it is but ull know when uve had enough and ive had it. at least i think argg decisions lol good luck and hope it works out! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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posted April 14, 2004 09:22 PM
Don't worry about it! You aren't a failing horse owner, and even though sometimes it may seem like it..you two aren't getting worse! I've trained quite a few horses..and sometimes you get into slumps..where it seems all you're doing is backsliding and you feel like giving up and selling him. But these slumps happen to everyone..and you just need to stick with it and get through it, becuase good times will come back. You don't even want to know how many times I've made up ads for my horses...and I'm set on selling them becuase everything seems to be falling apart.
Try to do things your both like to do...don't stress yourselves out over something you need to work on..but focus on the things you both love doing. If you're always at each other's throats becuase you're trying to get something accomplished...both you and your horse won't be very happy. When I get in training slumps with sunny..I take a break from the ring and go out for a hack. We both love hacks so much...it makes us both in a way better mood..and keeps us happy and refreshed. Hacks aren't a compete waste of time either..they're the basis of all my training with sunny. I make sure I go on fun hacks too though, where I just let her do w/e she feels like doing. If she wants to walk, we walk, if she feels like trotting, i let her trot...I don't pick at her and tell her to do anything, or there won't be anything different from trotting around the ring.
So just stick with it babs. Find something you both like to do..even if it's just going for a stroll and letting him graze!
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posted April 14, 2004 09:30 PM
babs, babs, babs...
You musn't give up, you will regret it in the long run:-) Trust me!
A friend of mine used to own a 3 year old 17 hh, qh, gelding. Anyways, she thought the geldling was tempermental, and did not want to deal with him. So she sold him for $500 that was cheap also, b/c she already had 120 days professional training on him! Then a few weeks ago she went to a show, and saw him there, he won almost every blue ribbon, and was sooo well behaved. Now he is 7, so just goes to show, that they do eventually grow out of the adolesant stage, and mature.
You will have a blast on him, especially after you put all this hard work on him. You will beat that snobby little stuck up brat in the show ring someday:-)
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posted April 14, 2004 10:15 PM
I don't know many people on this forum, and as a result am not very familiar with their horses, but from what I read in this post, like someone else said, he is just a youngin being playful. I have a gelding that is going to be four in May, and he is doing almost exactly the same things you said yours is doing. When we get on him though, he is a perfect darling. Since this all started with my guy recently, I'm going to blame it on the weather and him not being out as much lately. (Sounds good for now. lol) That's probably just your guy's problem, too. My guy gets worked with every day and up until he started seeing grass growing, was a gentleman. Now he started trying to nip, and forgot his lead rope manners. He still respects my space (most of the time), but every once in a while he's a toad. Once again, just hang in there. ![[Blushing]](graemlins/blush.gif)
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posted April 15, 2004 11:58 AM
Awww!, you guys make me want to cry. Not in a bad way but cos i love you all so much.
I'm still feeling low i'll ride tomorrow and see how he goes.
Cos my health hasn't been great we haven't been doing as much as i'd like to and i know i have been put off hacking since the dogs chased us and he bolted.
I do do different stuff with him and change the routine all the time but i'd do that with any horse. THey don't always need riden.
I give up on trying to lunge him cos a) he looks hurt and keeps trying to come over to me and b) he steals the whip and plays with it and i end up laughing so much.
Maybe it is seeing the grass....
He's going on holiday at the end of the month for a couple of months so maybe i'll grin and bear the next couple of weeks then we'll see how we get on after his holidays.
I will also talk to my yard manager cos she is the only one i know will give me a truely honest opinion - good and/or bad.
I have also thought about what we have achieved from he came to the yard ( in summer 2002 he was supposed to be a just broken 3 yr old but at Christmas 2003 the vet said he was still 3 rising 4)
Here goes:
WHen he arrived he had no brakes, no stearing, bucked all the time, basic schooling only, was about 14.2 hh and got really bad rainscald. NO one wanted to ride him and some people actually threw themselves off him before they fell off.
I treated his rainscald and petted him loads.
I rode him, always turned him to face the gate when he was turned out in the field so he didn't rocket off, so he always went out and came in with manners. I never smacked him for bucking , i rode him on and ignored it. His steering improved and so did his response to the aids.
I took him out different places like the road, the bridlepath and the field, first in hand then ridden. No one would goout with a youngster so i did it alone. I walked him through the water jump and did some cross country with him. 'taught' him to jump cross country and showjumps. He had deffinitely never been jumped when broken. Taught him to walk onto a lorry and over plastic sheeting and jump kitty litter trays with water in them.
It took me a year to get his feet picked up. Bathed him myself with no help. Did my sort of 'join up' in that i walked him round in a headcollar then trotted him then took it off and just asked him to follow me and he did. Never had any bother catching him he would come to me.
Never chased him away or had any need to smack him for being ignorant. He hardly ever bucks now, doesn't run of like he used to, his balance has improved and he will be one heck of a jumper. Truely does show potential.
From January this year say, on off problem with him trying to be the boss. Trying to treat me like a horse and play too rough.
Started kicking and striking out after he had a punture wound though we more or less had resolved that.
He seems to be starting that again, he is nipping at me , not sure if it is out of cheek or play or attention, theres a thing 'don't ignore me and look over there or talk to her' sort of attitude.. Will trail you towards any food, buckets of feed, hay, grass etc has become uncival to handle in a headcollar when being led through the yard and 'knows' when he is being turned out in the field and abit more hurried than usual to get there. Still watchs my every move in the yard, and if i'm in the field and will leave his friends to come over to me instead or walk along the fence following me.
Oh he is more assertive in the field than he use to be, knows who he can boss and who he can't in relation to other horses and he'll have a go, really dotes on a wee 2 yr old and i have seen him chase other geldings away from her un less the big grey mare Ziggy is out aswell then she chases them all away from it and will drive it along in front of her, whereas it follows jack.
oh and hes now 15.2hh may 15.3hh even and really filled out more and put on condition.
THink i have covered it all there.
Well i feel better for talking this all out, not sure how i feel but feel more inclined to give it a second chance and hope its just a bad patch.
Thanks again! I'll let yous know.
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posted April 15, 2004 12:22 PM
Oh hun, dont give up. Keep your chin up, you and jack are soo cute together!! right now im having a VERY tough time with my 3 yr old, and im not giving up. I might have to sell him, but we're not sure yet. Your not a bad horse owner at all. You go through alot of stages which is bascially a bonding process, stick together and everything will work out.
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posted April 15, 2004 01:41 PM
babs- you never have been and never will be a failure. Jack is young, he probably still has a little stallion instinct in him about being the boss. I promise you- in 6 years from now, he'll be an angel. Perfect for you all the time! Jack loves you and you love him. You have a great partnership seeing as he is a young male.
Oh hun!! Dont give up!!!
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posted April 15, 2004 03:17 PM
Babs- wait, wait- you took a greenbroke rudderless bucker w/ rainrot and now have him to where he's riding on the roads, and you are Questioning your Abilities? "Whatre you nuts?" (that's a compliment) You sound like his best rider, best friend, and best chance at reaching his potential. If he'll leave his equine friends to come see you, wow what a coup. What a compliment that your instructor wanted to borrow him for a lesson, and liked him. His antics sound like a combination of being 4 (which I = to being a 12 yr old kid) and spring'fever'. Raps is going to be 24 tomorrow and he is not above going thru 'Goof Week' when he's a little spooky, strutty, ancy. He was gelded @ age 9 mos. Naw, you and Jack sound like you're doing fine; he just needs to know where the limits are (biting, kicking, dragging around are Out.) Snide remarks @ you or he being bad are probably coming from jealous onlookers (instructor not included). Take it with a grain of saltlick.
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posted April 15, 2004 04:25 PM
pleez dont give up is he gelded teach him whoes boss!! make hime work ya know. Dont be his boss be his partner. just give it a while.
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posted April 17, 2004 12:40 PM
I don't think i can do this!
I really hated him today! Isn't that awfull. I have NEVER felt like this.
I took him into the lesson and he was as bad as he was when he first came to the yard only he is bigger and stronger now.
He would not slow down or be checked or go slower. WHen it was his turn to canter he was galloping to the rear of the ride.
We were supposed to trot inbetween this row of trotting poles like this
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He just took off and kept jumping the poles.
I know to rise slow to slow the trot down but it doesn't always work. Squeezing the rein or half halting doesn't work either when he is in that mood he just does what ever he likes!
HE hasn't been this bad inover a year!
I spoke to my yard manager cos i know she will give me honest answers.
I said he has been really taking the p'ss lately and i felt like giving up and selling him, that i don't think i'm doing him any good and i,m scared he'll end up developing the wrong muscles in his neck and end up getting worse.
He is usually good on his own but can be bad in lessons, he hasn't been in a lesson in over a month till today.
I know i'm a c.rap rider and i should disapline him more but i just don't know what to do. I also wondered if he could have hurt himself when he fell, she doesn't think he did, she agreed that its possible, but said he doesn't look sore.
She said not to sell him. Never let him behind me cos thats when he nips - thats what horses'll do to each other, he'll nip if hes behind me.
Its possible its spring,bad manners i don't know.
She agreed that maybe starting again from scratch when he comes back from holidays was a possibility. A few weeks ground work, work in hand before even getting on him.
She also said he needed 'ridden'on more in lesons. He goes better in the front of a ride than behind another horse but this isn't always possible and then they say he has to learn to go behind other horses without rushing.
If he is at the front he will go into his corners (well, he will anyway even behind something else, usually) he will respond to your aids nearly as well as he does on his own, he'll slow down, speed up as required.
I have got little kids to follow him over jumps or round the school on their ponies so they have something to follow and its like when he knows its important to behave he will but it's impossible to ride him foward behind something that isn't going foward!
He's awfull behind another horse but today he was awfull!!!!
One of the staff got on him and she's a good rider and he just wouldn't listen to her either today and that was with noone in the arena, he wouldn't halt, kept spooking and wouldn't go foward!
HE isn't as straight as he was his face/head keeps tilting out to the side.
I'll talk to the manager again tomorrow and the yard boss.
I think also i should maybe get his teeth checked again or get a physio out to check his back and neck.
My b/f doesn't like him but he knows i'm upset and says surely between everyone at my yard and here thers going to be someone to help me and not to think about selling him.
I do have patience, i have had patience with him but i know they are wearing thin and someone with a lack of patience has no business having anything to do with a horse, you shouldn't loose your temper and i'm scared i'm going to...
I'm sorry for being honest but thats how i feel and if i cry at the yard they're just going to tell me to wise up and i can't even say why i a m crying - its fustration, guilt, lack of worth - everything! ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Posts: 1242 | From: Belfast Northern Ireland | Registered: Jan 2004
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i_love_rocky
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posted April 17, 2004 12:46 PM
OMG just ignore what people say!!!!!! you a great horse owner!!! im sure jack loves you!!! horses are 'cheeky' until they are told and get to no whos boss!!! DONT GIVE UP! no one should ever give up ecpeccially you! your a great person and a great friend to everyone on this fourm and im sure your horse feels that your good to him to!! all horses are cheeky!!!!!! show every1 what your made of and get jack to be the best horse ever im sure within a few weeks you will be loving him again give him a chance!!!
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KT
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posted April 17, 2004 12:46 PM
i PMED you..i felt it would be better..i feel your frustration...please read it!
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