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Topic: vet giving innacurate advice?
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HuNTSeAT123
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posted May 10, 2004 05:52 PM
ok so as many of you know, Volt has been lame for quite some time. We had the vet look at him and she said he had an uneven hoof and a sprain. She said that we should give him bute and ride him at the walk, then in a few weeks at the trot, then the canter. does this sound right ot you?
denise (the other girl thats leasing Volt) was talking about it to antoerh lady whos exprienced with horses and these are denises words exactly (she was saying what the other lady said):
HuntJump007: she totally spazed when i told her what the vet told us to do wit h volt...it is NOT the thing to do, she says he should be put in a stall for a week, and have his leg wraped, she totally flipped, she was like he is going to KILL HIMSELF!
[ May 10, 2004, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: HuNTSeAT123 ]
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 10, 2004 06:04 PM
HOw long did the vet say to give bute?
Doesn't sound completely right on what the vet said. But if it IS from his legs being the way they are, corrective trimming/shoeing should have been mentioned. With that training advice after the trim/shoeing. But usually start with free lunging/turn-out.
If the horse continues to be lame, riding should be the LAST thing mentioned.
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HuNTSeAT123
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posted May 10, 2004 06:09 PM
wow, i wasnt expecting a reply this soon- thanks i need it asap!!
i think the vet said to give the bute until hes sound, i dunno though i'll get denise to post more details on here! but she siad we could ride him right away, and the vet did say to get volt trimmed and we just did today.
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 10, 2004 06:13 PM
Time to find a new vet.
Bute till he's sound? That can cause MORE problems than good. Bute should be used as sparingly as possible. Can cause ulcers and other bad stuff with long-term use.
And riding should be OUT completely till horse is sound again.
I'd go and get a second opinion.
The other lady's advice, stall for a few days, then see if sound is usually the advice given by most vets. Try it, stall him for 2 days. If he shows no improvement, call another vet and get a second opinion.
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HuNTSeAT123
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posted May 10, 2004 06:23 PM
thanks, i no this may sound stupid, but i would feel bad getting a new vet cuz it would really offend everyone at my barn (a bunch of old ladys and they can get pretty grouchy) excpessially the owner of the barn who works for the vet. i no it sounds cheesy and i should not feel bad, but its not that easy.
volt goes phsyco when hes in the stall(he just goes in there to eat), what can i do to calm him down?
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 10, 2004 06:30 PM
Ignore him. He'll calm down after a while. Mine went psycho after being turned out for a year then stalled up again. He's fine now.
As for everyone at the barn, are they going to pay for your horse if this vet is giving screwed up advice?
Can you trailer him to another vet? This way they never know. As far as they know, you are off on an outing. "Trailer training" or something like that. (Plus you save the "barn call fee" by taking him in).
I know where you are. I've been at barns and been ostrasized because I had a different vet, did things different than the way they did. I didn't stay very long. Especially after they ended up hurting my horse. (He was a stallion, put him in a round-pen outside stall next to a mare. A MARE IN HEAT no less...wasn't him that busted the fence though, was the mare. Hussy she was. LOL, but he got the snot beat out of him by her)
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Catapultcomformation
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posted May 10, 2004 06:32 PM
well if he does go on bute that will calm him down a bit.If you in anyway doubt this vet then get a second opinion!
This horse is not those old ladies horse he is YOURS and you may do with him what you like!If you doubt this vet this much then get another one out!
Anna
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jumping is like being set off in a catapult you dont know quite the extent of your stupidity until its over, and by that time your already in the ER
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HuNTSeAT123
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posted May 10, 2004 06:34 PM
aww.. your poor stally. thanks for the advice!
and to clear up the bute thing, the vet said give him bute as needed. since the owner fo the barn works with the vet i guess shes just getting how much she needs for him and stuff daily. (if you just followed that go you, i cant seem to word it right lol)
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HuNTSeAT123
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posted May 10, 2004 06:38 PM
LMAO catapult- were both leasing him so its a tid bit different. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) but still your right, but its really hard
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posted May 10, 2004 06:50 PM
Hi Guys! Sorry, I would post more but I dont get the way this forum works and according to ren
Soda Grl 19: wow your stupid
but to the importatn stuff...
Volt has been lame for several weeks. Carole (lady who owns the barn) said it was because of scratches, which he gets every week b/c of white feet (looked this up, and white feet r a minor cause??) Then we had a farrier out, who by the way is great, knows her stuff. She showed us how his feet should be fixed, and she is starting the process, Rode him for a week or so after he was trimmed, and they were all amazing rides, every one of them, flawless!! (just about) then, next thing we know, he is lame agian. Now, this time, not only is he lame, but he is waay out of character. even when he knew he was going to be worked, he would come at a dead gallop over the hill when We called his name. (mentiond this to carole, she passed it off as oh, he just dosent want to be worked) but now he is lame again, so finally carole calls the vet out (we tryed, but carole works for this vet, and said no wait some more...) and she looks him over. She mentions his feet (hoofs r not even), but dosent say how to treat them. Then, she checks out only his left front foot (not anyother, only this one ?) says oh its a sprain. I asked how to take care of this. She says bute and get your fanny in the saddle (exact words) i said no lunging? she said absolutly not, get you fanny in the saddle. I thought it was strange, but said ok. Rode him for barely 5 minutes the next day, only at a walk, but i could feel i was hurting more than helping. I talk to michelle (who is a national level rider, knows everything) and she was like nooo way!! (read rens first post) so what do u say we do? Carole was already offended once when we used a diff. farrier than hers, and its a smalll barn (13 horses) and we dont really have anyway to trailer. HELP!!! please and sorry for all the typos, computers being strange
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Super Step
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posted May 10, 2004 07:23 PM
You seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place.
I wonder if the farrier would be able to have another look and offer some different advice.
I would want some one to put hoof testers on the horse to see if it was not a stone bruise maybe an abcess.
I know there was a previous history of lameness, but this may be something different.
Make sure the sole is clean, that nothing is pressing the frog.
Hold your hand on the outside of the hoof and see if it feels warm. If you are not sure then compare it to another hoof.
It sounds like the vet is guessing. Did she show you the sprain? Could she detect pain or swelling.
I would soak the foot in Epsom Salts if I knew for sure which one it was.
She probably thinks it is something minor and will take care of its self.
Just some things to think about. Use common sense with any advice you recieve.
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 10, 2004 08:07 PM
Are you SURE that the person that came out was a Vet?
Just doesn't make ANY sense to me with the vet and their "treatment". Any lameness, should get rest for at LEAST 23-48 hours. At least everything I've ever learned and seen. Both in and out of school and work.
Did you talk to the vet? See the vet at all? Or are you going off that other lady who works for the vet?
I'd definitly get another vet out. Obviously nothing has been accomplished. I remember the post about scratches. Never seen scratches done up this long, without proper treatment.
Who cares what everyone else says. You need to conscern yourself with your horse and not your acquaintenances at the barn. Though barn people can be ruthless. Your horse can become lame for life, if not already (being pessimistic, sorry) and something could have been done if done properly.
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posted May 10, 2004 08:18 PM
I'm not even sure where to begin with this one.
What is more important to you, your horse's health and soundness - or what the boarders opinions of you are? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Seriously, get a new vet!! Even if your horse only had a sprain, a reputable vet would not prescribe Bute and work undersaddle for that injury. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
Stop worrying about what the peanut gallery will say/think about you having your own vet and farrier. If it's that much of an issue for you, move barns. Use your common sense, if someone tells you to do something to your horse that you feel is doing more harm than good - then for goodness sake, please don't do it!
Again, PLEASE at the very least get a second opinion on what is going on with your horse before he ends up getting lamed permanently.
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HuNTSeAT123
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posted May 11, 2004 01:00 PM
thanks guys. i are going to get another opinion for sure! and yes, i'm pretty sure this lady is a vet, maybe not a good one but she has her own offices and everything. and she did show us where the lamness was and how to tell which foot (when the head goes up) i already knew how though. i saw her and talked to her and when she said to ride him i did think it was wierd but volt is the first horse i've ever ridden besides in lessons (hes my first lease!) so i was just like what do i know? but anyway thanks for the advice and i'm gonna ask my best freind for her vets number cuz she seems pretty good!
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 11, 2004 02:01 PM
He is a Lease horse? Who are you leasing the horse from? Someone at the barn? Or someone away from the barn? If away, contact them and see if they would recommend a vet they would prefer to use.
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