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Topic: I am really scared now!!
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 05, 2004 01:32 PM
OK, My tb mare has picked up some weird lameness and I cant feel any heat or swelling at all. it all started after my first show with her. she gave us problems loading into the trailer on the way home. I gave her a good 4 days off and i got on her and trotted around for maybe 5 minuets (after a good ten of walking) and she came up lame, just all the sudden. Its been a week and a half now and i rode her once more a week after the four days, she was sound when i trotted her up and down the fenceline, then after our workout she was off again, now its like an on again off again thing. I called the vet and left a message. Its been close to two weeks since the show. I am really scared , although she doesnt look in pain. the only thing i could think of is her shoe job. my farrier says that he is trying to bring her heel out cause she is a little narrow. but the shoe is almost pushing into her frog. he told me to trust him and he said it wouldnt hurt her, but it seems to be the leg that is making her limp. I felt a tiny bit of heat in the tendons yesterday so i hosed it off with cold water for about 20 minets. and seh was fine before hand. I really dont know what i should even do to help her out. she dosnt look like she is in any pain, she is moving willingly. what do you guys think? If i left anything out just ask about something, sorry its such a long post.
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spyro1
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posted May 05, 2004 02:23 PM
Get your vet out to look at her, two weeks is a long time to be just sore from shoeing. Have you called your farrier to come out and look at her feet for you? He doesn't sound very promising to me, if he is telling you not to worry. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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MissBandit
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posted May 05, 2004 03:17 PM
Agree with Spy. Time to change a farrier when they tell you over the PHONE there is nothing wrong with his shoeing job. Seriously. I'd get a new farrier to come out and pull the shoe. It only takes a nail to be out by a HAIR for your horse to feel that stabbing pain. And the shoe should not come into contact with the frog at all.
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spyro1
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posted May 05, 2004 04:21 PM
Definately:) The heat you are feeling in her tendons is probably from her using her leg wrong, stressing the tendons. Wouldn't hurt to wrap with quilts and polo's for extra support until you get your vet or farrier out to pull that shoe. Good girl for cold hosing it too, I am sure she felt better after.
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Moonshine Zeus
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posted May 05, 2004 04:23 PM
Hey well if you dont no why ill just say something. My pony that never goes lame suddenly came up sore. My instructer cheeked him out and found nothing wrong with him he was only lame on and off 4 that day in da end we found out he was lacking in selium one boast and he was sound but thats mite not b the case and it is probably best to get the vet if your worried that shes not getting better
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 07, 2004 02:03 PM
Yeah I plan on putting her on a really good supplement, since i do so much with her I figures she needs it. I am waiting for the vet to get here, and i have a feeling she wont be coming today./ What would u suggest for a supplement?
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 07, 2004 02:09 PM
Until you get that lameness issue under control, DON"T RIDE. You can do more damage to her.
Call another farrier, Yank all the shoes if someone can't get out and know what they are doing or if you want the vet to look at her before being re-shod.
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 07, 2004 02:22 PM
OHH god no im not riding her lol, I do know that much, she has had the past two weeks off since the show. Im ognna wait unitl the vet gets out here to see if it really is the shoes or not, but there is no heat anywhere and if i let her out she plays around. It dosnt seem to hurt her at all but she is still off. she has be completely baffled, and yes the vet still hasnt shown, I have a feeling htat she is just going to come another day. I hope she calls soon.
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 07, 2004 02:26 PM
I'd call the vet, possibly another vet. She needs to get taken care of. 2 weeks worth of damage can just get worse and worse.
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 09, 2004 12:19 PM
ok , well the vet did come down about 40 minets after I last posted in here. we took radiographs?? kinda like x rays. and we blocked her also to see where the soreness started. She was off int he front right, and both her hooves in the front were touchy, the one on the right more than the other. So now its just a matter of tiem till the things get done. She is on stall rest( total chaos for misty) and bute and to rule out hte chance of abcess witch is highly unlikly I am wrapping her hoof. well I hope to get the info from my vet very soon.
ILl let you guys know as soon as I do.
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CANDYGIRL
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posted May 10, 2004 01:46 AM
What did your vet say about the shoes?
I would be realy concerned if the shoes were touching her frog ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Agree with the others about the farrier.
Glad you had the vet, but think like the others you need another farrier as well.
Are your vets allowed to pull shoes, ours in UK are?
Hope your x rays show nothing serious
Wishing you luck ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Blistering Winds
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posted May 10, 2004 06:45 AM
Candygirl. Yes, our vets can pull shoes. Though if it isn't necessary, they usually don't. But in a case like this, he might have.
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 10, 2004 01:29 PM
well, the lameness wasnt in the hoof that she had the shoe almost touching her frog. The vet called and left a message saying that she had the results but she didnt say what they were in the thing. so i called her cell phone and left a message. Anyway, yes vets can pull shoes here, and she had to in order to take the radiograph. just pray that there isnt any broken bones or anything.
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Khafona gurl
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posted May 10, 2004 01:39 PM
he or she could have gotten stone bruse or one of the really long thorns stuck in her foot? you might want to check your fields for those really long thorns.
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 11, 2004 02:34 PM
she definatly doesnt have anything stuck in her hoof, or a stone bruise. I am right now playing phone tag with the vet and I hope to get a hold of her soon.
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QHGirl
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posted May 11, 2004 03:25 PM
Anything yet? Crossing fingers for you!
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 12, 2004 02:59 PM
no, i am still playing phone tag with the vet, she has been sound since the shoe came off, but then again, we also have her on some bute
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 13, 2004 12:48 PM
Alright, I finnally got a hold of hte vet, she said she dosnt have any fractures or anything. BUT her navicular bone shows changes. My farrier was trying to prevent this by trying to make her heel grow wider, but i think in the end its making her get navicular. I am moving barns in a few months and I will probably be changing farriers also. It is hard because he is a freind of mine and I dont want to hurt him but I think he is hurting my horse. well there is the reason she was really sore and off.
Liz
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madvoice
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posted May 13, 2004 04:22 PM
Have you spoken to your regular farrier about the current situation. He may not have been aware of the severity of the problem. Even though farriers get extensive training with hoof management, sometimes things can slip by and be misdiagnosed. You may find that after explaining to your farrier the problem he may be able to give your horse remedial shoeing. If that is not the case then, as you said, a change in farrier may be necessary.
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lil nicky
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posted May 13, 2004 08:19 PM
did you do an arthiritis check????
pick up her affected leg like you want to clean her hoof. Hold ot up as tight and high as you can for two full minutes. Have a second person hold her than when the two minutes are up, release her leg and RIGHT AWAY trott her. If her limping is worse than thats artritis....the sympoms sound like my mare too. The trailer and everything....lol
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Debra
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posted May 15, 2004 07:12 AM
Changes to the navicular bone are caused by trauma from excessive concussion. Horses with upright conformation (little to no angle at the fetlock and pastern) are prone to it. Working too much on hard ground can cause changes and sometimes when the feet are too small it exacerbates it. The #1 cause is a bad trim job, leaving the toes too long. If your vet diagnosed navicular syndrome I'm assuming she also prescribed Isoxoprene (vasodilator). One of the best prescriptions is a more balanced trim with egg bar shoes. If this isn't taken care of now, you will wind up with MAJOR problems. On the other hand, it's very manageable if dealt with correctly from the onset of symptoms.
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kotyskillerkolors
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posted May 16, 2004 04:04 PM
She doesnt have navicular, it just showed that her bone moved slightly, She is very upright and I kinda bought her knowing that, I think all the crazyness of trying to get her on the trailer at the show is what kinda caused it. She was sooo bad we had practically the whole show helping us get her on. She went on perfect at home though... hmm anyways, I think the trim juob didnt help much. I told my farreir not to trim her long like he tends to. And I am really debating on keeping him as one when I move to another barn in the end of summer.
Liz
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